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Welcome to More In Common Podcast With Rodney Campbell and Keith Richardson. This podcast is our social experiment to examine our belief that we all have more in common than that which divides us. With each new guests we have open, honest, and insightful conversation about the things that matter to them.
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Thursday Dec 03, 2020
Patrick DeNicola /// Zen to the Trees /// Season4:E0105
Thursday Dec 03, 2020
Thursday Dec 03, 2020
Patrick is on a mission to inspire others to challenge the old models of life, igniting our free thought, creativity, knowledge, and inner truth through the practice of holistic conscious living.
His journey to holistic wellness living started under the guidance of my father who through practices of nutrition, meditation, karate, tai chi and knowledge of ancient history and philosophy helped me lay a foundation of self-realization. Though hidden underneath, this foundation grounded me once revealed and pushed me towards transformation.
He has built a method to help others find their true selves and purpose in their lives and we are thrilled to have him with us today.
"Sleep, to me, is at the forefront of every issue. It's at the forefront of every illness." - Pat DeNicola
Topics we discuss:
- The Old models of life
- How he defines them and how he looks at them.
- How they box us in.
- The Rat Race of Life
- Eastern vs. western philosophies
- His Growing up with native American philosophies
- Influence of his dad
- Rebelling against the lifestyle of his childhood
- Almost getting arrested
- Hitting Rock Bottom
- Emotional Intelligence
- How we learn it or don’t learn it
- Impact of knowing and not knowing
- Social Constructs and their impact
- Legality vs. Morality
- SLEEP and the importance of it
- The difficulty for many in getting sleep
- How he got into it
References:
- Patrick's Website
- Heisenberg's uncertainty principle
- Quantum Entanglement
- 1918 Flu Pandemic
- Epstein Bar Virus
Credits:
Lead editor + Producer: Ruf Holmes
Music:
Main Theme: "Eaze Does It" by Shye Eaze and DJ Rufbeats, a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.
Guest theme: "Car Chase" by DJ Rufbeats created as a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.

Thursday Nov 26, 2020
Megan Nadin /// Gratitude for Life /// Season4:E0104
Thursday Nov 26, 2020
Thursday Nov 26, 2020
Megan Nadin is a singer-songwriter born and raised in Thunder Bay, Canada with a truly identifiable voice, both captivating and inspiring. Her mission? To be an honest and authentic voice to those in need. To provide hope through altruistic platforms, which she knows can and will change lives. While Megan’s vocal prowess and ability to emote is often interpreted as a seasoned professional, many are surprised to learn this emerging artist only began her musical journey in 2017.
As a kid though, she looked for any excuse to perform her songs for her friends and family, at any chance she could get.
As much as Megan has loved music in her life, she prioritized early, getting her university education - continuing to use the art of writing and singing to express herself on a more personal level. While pursuing her teaching degree, Megan decided to take a trip to Cambodia to volunteer teaching English for the organization New Hope For Orphans.
And now, that she is investing all her energy to pursue what she loves, she has released her debut album, 'This Was Then'…
To learn more about Megan with the latest news and updates, visit megannadin.com, Instagram, Facebook, Spotify, SoundCloud, Twitter
"Every time I've stepped into my fear and did something that made me feel uncomfortable, it helped me grow…" - Megan Nadin
Topics we discuss:
- Fear
- How it manifests for Megan
- Impact of it
- Moving through it
- Her visit to Cambodia
- How it changed her life
- Launching her professional singing career
- Mom's influence over time
- Ego
- Pride vs. Ego
- Having Gratitude
- Taking notice of the little things
- Feeling connected
- Growing up
- Moving a lot
- Her vocal coach that impacted her trajectory
- Her insecurities
- Self-Love
- Self-Care
- Yoga
- Eating with intention and enjoyment
- "This Was Then"
- The creation of the album
- How the songs were created
References:
Credits:
Lead editor + Producer: Ruf Holmes
Music:
Main Theme: "Eaze Does It" by Shye Eaze and DJ Rufbeats, a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.
Guest theme: "Watermarks" by Megan Nadin

Thursday Nov 19, 2020
CJ Johnson /// Another Motion /// Season5:E0103
Thursday Nov 19, 2020
Thursday Nov 19, 2020
CJ Johnson is an acclaimed Speaker and Digital Marketing Consultant, servicing Fortune 50 clients worldwide and a prominent digital influencer with hundreds of thousands of online supporters. CJ is best known for creating successful influencer marketing campaigns as both an influencer and a consultant, helping content creators and companies maximize their ROI. As a successful influencer, CJ uses his voice for creative storytelling to provide inspiration, branding tips, and work/life balance advice in our modern era. As a consultant, CJ specializes in digital brand strategy, creative campaigns, influencer marketing, future of work, diversity & inclusion, and trend forecasting. His work specializes in the technology, fashion, lifestyle, political, travel, and entertainment industries.
CJ first found success as an award-winning creative director, producer, and writer, working on countless music videos, commercials, film, and television projects. Since then he successfully co-founded one of the Top 50 Digital Agencies in Los Angeles, became the “on-demand branding guru” of Silicon Beach, revolutionizing growth-hacking, content creation, and influencer marketing, scaling marketing teams, and ambassador programs for on-demand apps. After finding much success, CJ evolved with the changing times showcasing his skills as a futurist and strategist, now serving as a GQ Insider, Google Next Gen Policy Leader, and a Branding Consultant to innovative companies.
Currently, CJ Johnson is based in Los Angeles, California with his daughter, Fiona where they enjoy the ocean and father/daughter jam sessions.
Check out the episode on YouTube as well: https://youtu.be/7osIpsZbHow
"Every moment is yours for the taking…" - CJ Johnson
Topics we discuss:
- The mental exhaustion of the black cultural moment
- Impact of COVID-19
- Emotional Impact of it all
- Being Checked In on
- Being the only black person
- The Ego
- Impact of Social Media
- Privilege
- Identity
- The challenge of Contradictions on Ego
- Self-Awareness
- Accepting Success and the Journey
- Growing up in the military
- Moving to L.A.
- Relationship with Father
- Defining success
- Social media
- Balancing image and reality
- Living a life of passion and joy
- Managing Mental health
- Processing success
References:
- Stoicism
- Ego
- Ego is the Enemy
- Micro Aggressions
- Marshall Island - Kwajalein
- Zack Morris
- Digital Revolution
- Social Dilemma
Sponsors:
GiftPod; an audio memory that you can record and give as private podcast.
Credits:
Lead editor + Producer: Ruf Holmes
Music:
Main Theme: "Eaze Does It" by Shye Eaze and DJ Rufbeats, a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.
Guest theme: "Keys in Hand" by DJ Rufbeats created as a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.

Thursday Oct 29, 2020
Brad Lambert /// Peer to Peer /// Season4:E0102
Thursday Oct 29, 2020
Thursday Oct 29, 2020
Check this interview out on YouTube: https://youtu.be/6olZ1FGf4Hc
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Brad Lambert was born and raised in Pittsburgh, PA so there's no surprise why he got into the Sports Industry after graduating from North Carolina State University. Brad followed his passion for the Steelers and all things Pittsburgh and worked in that industry for almost 10 years. After working with his favorite athletes (Hines Ward, Lynn Swann, Willie Parker), top sports franchises (Pittsburgh Steelers, New York Jets) and global brands (Lagardère Unlimited, Hachette Filipacchi Media, Hershey, Barnes & Noble), he decided to follow his other passion, Film & Entertainment.
He moved to Los Angeles and hit the ground running with Robert Downey Jr. After about a year with the biggest name in Hollywood, he went to Warner Bros. and managed their Digital Marketing campaigns for 2 years, winning 3 CLIO Awards during his tenure (Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them, The LEGO Batman Movie, KONG: SKULL ISLAND). For the last 3 years he has been an Independent Producer, Talent Manager and INTL. Speaker, working with the top Brands, Studios, Celebrities, Artists and Professionals in the Industry – Prominent collaboration partners include: Walt Disney Studios, Marvel Studios, Warner Bros. Pictures, Sony Pictures, Universal Pictures, Gary Vaynerchuk, Chris Hemsworth, The Russo Bros., The Pittsburgh Steelers and more.
In 2019 he worked on the Marketing Campaigns for 2 of the biggest movies of all-time, collaborating with Walt Disney Studios and Marvel Studios on their release of "Avengers: Endgame" and Sony Pictures and Marvel Studios for their release of "Spider-Man: Far From Home".
He is currently producing multiple film and TV projects, managing talent and speaking all over the world.
"Lead with kindness…do what you can for other people because a little bit of happiness goes a long way." - Brad Lambert
Topics we discuss:
- Where we were on 9/11 (Recorded on the 19th anniversary)
- Accountability and how it was instilled in him
- Racial Inequality
- Privilege
- Servicing of others as a mentality
- Empathy
- Taking Risks and living his life
- Following Passions
- Being an Influencer vs. being a person of influence
- Living a life of service
- The Follower mentality
- Chadwick Bosman and the impact he had
- Providing value and being valuable
- Managing Depression
- Focusing on Relationships
- The trap of making money
References:
- Brad's Website
- Marvel Universe
- Chadwick Bosman
- Draft Day
- Gary Vaynerchuck
- Tom Bilyeu
- Scooter Braun
- Benjamin Wallfisch
Credits:
Lead editor + Producer: Ruf Holmes
Music:
Main Theme: "Eaze Does It" by Shye Eaze and DJ Rufbeats, a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.
Guest theme: "All Right Now" by DJ Rufbeats created as a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.

Thursday Oct 22, 2020
Pearce Godwin /// Calm Tides /// Season4:E101
Thursday Oct 22, 2020
Thursday Oct 22, 2020
Pearce Godwin is described as the national voice for bridging divides—is Founder & CEO of Listen First Project, Executive Director of National Conversation Project, and leader of the #ListenFirst Coalition of 300 partner organizations. He catalyzes the #ListenFirst movement to mend the frayed social fabric of America by building relationships and bridging divides. His passion is combating the universally felt crisis of distance, division, and dehumanization across differences with conversations that prioritize understanding.
Pearce graduated from Duke University and received an MBA from UNC-Chapel Hill. He spent five years working in Washington, DC—in the U.S. Senate and as a national political consultant for presidential and statewide campaigns. Before moving home to North Carolina in 2013, Pearce spent six months in Uganda, Africa where he wrote It’s Time to Listen. That message—printed in dozens of papers across the United States—launched Listen First Project and led thousands to sign the Listen First Pledge—“I will listen first to understand.”
In 2018, Pearce helped create the first National Week of Conversation and hosted the kickoff event, Listen First in Charlottesville. Pearce then launched the overarching, collaborative movement platform National Conversation Project, which scales the #ListenFirst movement by promoting annual National Weeks of Conversation, #ListenFirst Fridays, Rapid Response & Featured Conversations on Major Issues, Locally-Focused #ListenFirst Movements, and any conversation creating social connection.
The #ListenFirst movement has been recognized by journalists at CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, USA Today, Associated Press, and The New York Times as Pearce has spoken about the mission on national television and to live audiences around the world.
"I don't think any of us, ultimately, want to live in a society that is defined by how we're different as opposed to common hopes and dreams. Common values around freedom, equality and opportunity." - Pearce Godwin
Topics we discuss:
- His Optimistic outlook on the future
- The nuance of this optimism
- Breaking the divisions in our country and what that looks like
- Perspective on how we started sliding into advent disagreement
- Politicians
- Internet & Social Media
- News Media
- Human nature
- Social Echo Chambers
- Common threats as a unifier
- How he got to this place after years in politics
- The choice to go to Uganda
- That trip's impact on his journey
- Political Affiliation
- The danger of our identities being tied to the tribe we identify with.
- Listen First Project and Weaving Community
- Listen First Project and Weaving Community
References:
- The Listen First Project
- National Conversation Project
- The Pledge "It's time to listen" that started it all
- Definition of Pollyannish
- Definition of Optimism
- Asteroid Theory
- Graham Bodie's episode
- Infinite Game - Simon Sinek
- Brene Brown's Core Values
- Weaving Community with David Brooks
- His final thoughts in USA Today
Credits:
Lead editor + Producer: Ruf Holmes
Music:
Main Theme: "Eaze Does It" by Shye Eaze and DJ Rufbeats, a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.
Guest theme: "Lady in Bronze " by DJ Rufbeats created as a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.

Thursday Oct 15, 2020
Jason Sywak /// Cerebral Statesmanship /// Season4:E100
Thursday Oct 15, 2020
Thursday Oct 15, 2020
Jason currently manages communications for a nonprofit in the entertainment industry but before that he was in DC, in the belly of the beast, handling communications and marketing for political organizations - a time he often looks back on simultaneously with discomfort and gratitude.
These days, outside of the office, Jason uses his communications background to assist community based organizations and activist groups with outreach and messaging as a way to stay involved in local issues and support progressive causes in his own community.
Jason is from Philadelphia, PA, home of the 1985 M.O.V.E. bombing where the Mayor of the city ordered a bomb dropped on a city block to evacuate a group of Black Liberation activists - an event that had a lasting impact on his world views and helped shape his political journey.
"You as an individual can make a difference. You won't make THE difference…but you can be a ripple in a series of ripples." - Jason Sywak
Topics we discuss:
- How his Ideals have stayed the same but the way he thinks about them have changed.
- His prior political perspective
- Working with organizations he regrets
- Switch in political parties
- The registration system to support candidates
- Systems that don't allow for Meritocracy
- Growing up in public housing with Mom and then middle class with his dad
- Understanding that what can happen to them CAN happen to you
- Bootstrap Argument and depths to its fallacy
- How his perspective was shaped based on the dichotomy of his youth
- Being a high school drop out
- School system inequalities
- The nuance of Capitalism
- Crony Capitalism
- Influence of his grandparents escaping concentration camps
- The role that Government should play
- Servants vs. Rulers
- Campaign Finance and the alternatives to private donation.
References:
Credits:
Lead editor + Producer: Ruf Holmes
Music:
Main Theme: "Eaze Does It" by Shye Eaze and DJ Rufbeats, a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.
Guest theme: "Chipotle Spread" by DJ Rufbeats created as a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.

Thursday Oct 08, 2020
Oleg Brodsky /// Eastern Dreams /// Season4:E099
Thursday Oct 08, 2020
Thursday Oct 08, 2020
Oleg is a Principle Scientist with a focus on Cancer research at a large pharmaceutical company.
He was born in Maldova, which lies between Ukraine and Romania. At 12 his parent brought him to the States where he was raised in Los Angeles.
Given the spirit of this Season "shared American ideals" and all that is going on, and will be going one, with COVID-19, we just had to have him on to discuss so many things.
"Before I speak I try to think and recognize that people may have a different opinion, belief" - Oleg Brodsky
Topics we discuss:
- His native country, Maldova
- His family's migration to the states
- Being an immigrant in the states
- Family history of persecution
- History of Jewish persecution in Russia
- Asia and the breadth of its reach
- What American ideals mean to him as generation 0
- The American Dream
- Racial tension with Immigrants
- Talking COVID-19 to those who don't believe as a scientist
- General Infectious disease discussion
- Context on testing
- Education on virus mutation
- Simplified example of why masks are important
- Facts (as this season has gone)
References:
- Map of Maldova
- Ural Mountains
- Berlin Wall
- Russian Jewish persecution
- Hitler/Stalin Pact
- Armenian Genocide
- Herd Immunity
- Darwinism
Credits:
Lead editor + Producer: Ruf Holmes
Music:
Main Theme: "Eaze Does It" by Shye Eaze and DJ Rufbeats, a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.
Guest theme: "Frozen Pears" by DJ Rufbeats created as a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.

Thursday Oct 01, 2020
Compassionate America /// Easy Hands /// Season4:E098
Thursday Oct 01, 2020
Thursday Oct 01, 2020
Today we are with Dr. June Klees. Dr. June is a Community college humanities & social-behavioral sciences instructor. While she focuses on history, she has taught in the areas of cultural diversity, education, geography and the first-year experience.
Dr. June has also helped establish the Compassionate America Message. What Compassionate America stands for is nothing less than what Compassionate Americans from all walks of life have done in their daily lives throughout our history. It isn’t unique to America, but it acknowledges that the “Spirit of 1776” called for the fundamental rights and freedoms of humanity to be recognized, honored, and respected under the rule of law. This value system has woven itself into the fabric of America in different ways and ONLY has ever been maintained from generation-to-generation by Compassionate Americans who love their country…
The rest of this pledge can be found at compassionateamerica.org…it will be in the show notes. In the spirit of our Season 4, 'Shared American Ideals', we just had to have June on and are excited to have you hear today.
"It isn't about getting stuck in the past it is about seeing the past as a vast laboratory and seeing what works and doesn't work in human behavior." - June
Topics we discuss:
- What Liberty and Justice for all means to her
- The American Enlightenment
- The movement towards the ideals
- Reconciling the truth of the past to move toward the vision of the past
- Impact of this conversation on Rodney
- Historical truths vs. how we feel about those truths.
- Hindsight's role in the evaluation of history
- The false narrative of perfectionism
- The role of privilege in her life and the realization of that truth.
- The responsibility of knowing it
- The impact of childhood trauma on her life
- Generational influence on her journey and current place in life.
- The duty of her generation to pay it forward
- Compassionate America Mission
- The Grand Gesture
References:
- Compassionate America
- American Enlightenment history
- Definition of Pollyanna
- Western Civics
- Historical Empathy
- Monday Morning QB - Definition
- Mr. Rogers
- Dr. Spock Parenting
Credits:
Lead editor + Producer: Ruf Holmes
Music:
Main Theme: "Eaze Does It" by Shye Eaze and DJ Rufbeats, a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.
Guest theme: "Nation Step" by DJ Rufbeats created as a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.

Thursday Sep 24, 2020
Social Nuisance /// Synonyms adjacent /// Season4:E097
Thursday Sep 24, 2020
Thursday Sep 24, 2020
Today we are with Imagine and Motion from the Social Nuisance Podcast. We were on their show back in December 2019 and we are excited to have them with us today.
They met in 2011 at a community college and quickly hit it off as like-minded passionate artists and intellectuals. Motion was a dedicated Poet and Imagine, a Rapper. Both are inspired by the world around them and look to contribute their perspectives to any and every conversation. Dialog and Discussion are at the root of any development, evolution, and progressive movement. Imagine and Motion created the podcast in hopes of providing a sensible, humorous, and in your face conversation on the things that matter in the world, people and the social environments we find ourselves in. The world changes by way of Nuisances, willing to take that first step in rocking the boat, stirring the pot, and ruffling some feathers.
"Pretend we all agree. We're all going to have a different perspective and motivation on what we're going to do with those facts anyways. So I'm kinda all about just hearing it all out." - Motion
"Personal motto KMF, keep moving forward, all day, everyday." - Imagine
Topics we discuss:
- What are and what do we strive for regarding Shared American Ideals
- The idea of breaking a binary political system
- What voting local is all about and why it is important
- Gaining perspective from other's regardless of their thoughts and ideas
- How this will break division
- Even when hate is involved
- Relationship between citizen's and police
- The Bad apple argument
- Ideas for improving policing relationships with citizens
- Them growing up and what lead them to each other.
- Understanding their identities
- Be accepted and alienated
- Accepting themselves and personal identities
- Facts, what they are and the difference with truth
References:
- Social Nuisance Podcast
- Joe Biden saying "shoot them in the leg"
- Officer Tipton says "I Don't Care" as man dies in his custody
- Black couple in Englewood shot while sleeping in car
- Lloyd Wilkey Episodes
- The thin blue line
- Dick Gregory on Policing - VIDEO IS FIRE!!
Credits:
Lead editor + Producer: Ruf Holmes
Music:
Main Theme: "Eaze Does It" by Shye Eaze and DJ Rufbeats, a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.
Guest theme: "quick note" by DJ Rufbeats created as a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.

Thursday Sep 17, 2020
Joanna Schwartz /// Rustic Scales /// Season4:E096
Thursday Sep 17, 2020
Thursday Sep 17, 2020
Joanna Schwartz is Professor of Law at UCLA School of Law. She teaches Civil Procedure and a variety of courses on police accountability and public interest lawyering. She received UCLA's Distinguished Teaching Award in 2015, and served as Vice Dean for Faculty Development from 2017-2019.
Professor Schwartz is one of the country's leading experts on police misconduct litigation. Professor Schwartz additionally studies the dynamics of modern civil litigation. She is co-author, with Stephen Yeazell, of a leading casebook, Civil Procedure (10th Edition), and her scholarship has appeared or is forthcoming in Columbia Law Review, New York University Law Review, Stanford Law Review, Texas Law Review, UCLA Law Review, and the Yale Law Journal, among others.
Professor Schwartz is a graduate of Brown University and Yale Law School. After law school, Professor Schwartz clerked for Judge Denise Cote of the Southern District of New York and Judge Harry Pregerson of the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals. She was then associated with Emery Celli Brinckerhoff & Abady LLP, in New York City, where she specialized in police misconduct, prisoners' rights, and First Amendment litigation.
"The basic facts of any given case aren't in dispute, it's whether you see those facts as wrong doing or not" - Joanna Schwartz
Topics we discuss:
- How we have lost our perspective of Shared Ideals
- Perspective drives how we see the facts
- How this applies to the law
- Criminal standards of Police Prosecution
- How do we reduce incidence of police force
- The ethics of deadly force
- What is Justice and what is Social Justice
- How she got where she is.
- The journey being a bit backwards
- What keeps her going
- What recharges her
- Her Mindset and managing life to get everything that needs to be done
- Current research on assumptions used by Supreme Court in making judgements
- Social Media and the First Amendment
References:
- Joanna's Full Bio
- Charlotte Mecklenburg Library
- Definition of Deadly Force
- Philando Castile
- Men In Black
- Teddy Shapiro with More In Common
- First Amendment
- 5G networks causing COVID
- Mark Zuckerburg's original congressional hearing
Credits:
Lead editor + Producer: Ruf Holmes
Music:
Main Theme: "Eaze Does It" by Shye Eaze and DJ Rufbeats, a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.
Guest theme: "Binding Signatures" by DJ Rufbeats created as a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.