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Welcome to More In Common Podcast With Rodney Campbell and Keith Richardson. This podcast is our social experiment to examine our belief that we all have more in common than that which divides us. With each new guests we have open, honest, and insightful conversation about the things that matter to them.
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Thursday May 13, 2021
James H. Lowry /// A Cause Worth the Fight /// Season5:E125
Thursday May 13, 2021
Thursday May 13, 2021
What do you fight for?
Movements, religion, and love are a few of the many things people spend their lives fighting for.
When you find a cause or life purpose that ignites a burning passion within you, you will forever be destined to fight all your life to keep it alive and known.
A successful businessman, author, and our guest Jim Lowry embodies what it means to fight for that passion. For Jim, the burning passion is the desire to boost economic development and create wealth in minority communities.
In his book, he uses his life story and experiences to convey the advancements that are achieved through the analysis of history and willingness to learn. His life's work is a blueprint for future generations who are willing to ignite that same fire.
So, what will you fight for?
“Be diplomatic but be honest”- James H. Lowry
James H. Lowry is a business icon, sought after speaker, strategic advisor and nationally recognized workforce and supplier diversity expert and pioneer. Lowry was the first African American consultant for global consulting firm McKinsey & Company in 1968. Later, he became the first African American senior partner at the prestigious Boston Consulting Group, where he led the firm’s workforce diversity, ethnic marketing and minority business development consulting practice. Lowry continues to serve as a senior advisor to BCG, while heading his own private consulting firm, James H. Lowry & Associates.
In early 1960’s, Lowry was an associate director with the US Peace Corps, stationed in Lima, Peru, where he met Senator Robert F. Kennedy who recruited him to be a staffer at the new Bedford-Stuyvesant Restoration Corporation in Brooklyn. While there, he, along with Bed-Stuy resident and actress Roxie Roker, co-hosted the pioneering television show Inside Bedford-Stuyvesant, New York City’s first program written, produced and presented by blacks at a time when blacks were largely invisible on television, or seen only in news footage about riots, protests or crime. In 1985, Lowry also co-hosted the groundbreaking television show MBR: The Minority Business Report.
In addition to his entrepreneurial endeavors, Lowry is a teacher, mentor and leader across sectors.
Lowry encapsulated his 30 plus years of experience in the field of minority business development in the book he co-authored in 2011, Minority Business Success: Refocusing on the American Dream. His new book, Change Agent: A Life Dedicated to Creating Wealth for Minorities, is an intimate memoir that demonstrates the power of iconic mentors and pivotal opportunities leveraged across the globe, and offers solutions to the ever-widening wealth gap that plagues black and brown communities today.
Topics we discuss:
- Characterize success
- Relationship with money
- History of the Black community
- Capitalism seems to perpetuate a scarcity mindset.
- Big billionaires should flood money into black communities to help.
- Importance of building a black partner ecosystem.
- Reliance on the government.
- Compassion
References:
- Think and Grow Rich - Napoleon Hill
- Change Agent - His Book
- Francis Parker School - outside Chicago
- Embryonic Democracy
- PBS Documentary on the black church Produced by John Legend
- Crab in the Barrel analogy
- Lincoln's history of ending Slavery.
- Dr. Grant's Episode
- Pel Grants
- John Thompson - Board of IBM/Microsoft
- LBJ Quote
- Illinois Reparations
- Approval of Reparations in Reconstructions
- Kent "Lock West" Episode with M.I.C.
Credits:
Lead editor + Producer: Ruf Holmes
Music:
Main Theme: "Eaze Does It" by Shye Eaze and DJ Rufbeats, a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.
All music created by DJ Rufbeats

Thursday May 06, 2021
Sherwyn Cooper /// Show me how smart you are /// Season5:E124
Thursday May 06, 2021
Thursday May 06, 2021
Have you ever wondered what box you fit into?
Naturally, our mind creates metaphorical boxes where we categorize ourselves and others. Many of us tend to find comfort and safety within our box, despite its restrictive nature.
Only a handful of people dare to step or think outside the box. Quite a cliche, we know.
Our guest Sherwyn Cooper is reflective of the achievement obtained when you step outside the box. His refusal to categorize himself and others drives this creative and compassionate conversation. With a wide variety of topics discussed, you're guaranteed to receive insight for ways in which you too can step outside of the box. “Find somebody successful and steal their knowledge,” - Sherwyn Cooper. Today we are with Sherwyn Cooper. Sherwyn was born in Boston and is an Ex-Software engineer who decided to go out on his own.
After stumbling upon Turo, a car sharing platform, while on vacation, he decided to get plugged into it and bought his first car creating his first side hustle. After a year, he had 22 cars and was an entrepreneur ready to leave his career as a software engineer.
He also created a basketball recruiting channel on YouTube called BallasTV and recently started his podcast, 6 Figure Side Hustle.
Topics we discuss: · Background o Born in Boston. o Created Turo ride sharing. o Was a software engineer because he was good at it not because he liked it. · Football Players and political views o Tom Brady o Colin Kaepernick o Drew Brees · Pressure choosing sides in politics. o Need to be demographic. o Forced in a box. o Idea that skin color is an automatic vote for one side. · Success to him o Success is relationships. o You are the average of who you hang out with. o Be honest to what is going on. o Money allows you to have options. · How he created his business o Coached basketball and would have to rent 3- 15 passenger vans. o He wanted the ability to drive a compact car for simple errands. o Saw the need for cheap easy to use cars.
References: · Joe Biden on the Breakfast Club
Credits: Lead editor + Producer: Ruf Holmes
Music: Main Theme: "Eaze Does It" by Shye Eaze and DJ Rufbeats, a More In Common Podcast Exclusive. All music created by DJ Rufbeats |

Thursday Apr 29, 2021
Dr. Jannell MacAulay /// Turn Surviving into Thriving/// Season5:E123
Thursday Apr 29, 2021
Thursday Apr 29, 2021
Competitive stress culture: have you experienced it and if so at what cost?
The competitive stress culture’s narrative of success pushes the idea that you must be constantly busy and stressed out to achieve a great amount of success. And if you are not stressed or busy, you are not that successful. Redefining success through self-reflection and mindfulness can reshape the emphasis and associated stressors we tie to success. Ultimately if you have lost a connection to yourself but are super successful, what does that really mean?
From firsthand experience, our guest, Dr. Jannell MacAulay, a former U.S Air Force leader and combat pilot, understands the pressure of high stress situations and the importance of succeeding.
In her career she notes how often she placed too much emphasis on achievement which stripped the joy from life. Currently she is a mindfulness advocate and shares her tools on creating the balance between harmony and work.
It is undeniable what it takes to reshape our mindset around success. You can achieve success without the cost of losing yourself.
“ We get tied up with the narratives of what we do, that we disconnect from who we are” - Dr. Jannell MacAulay
A U.S. Air Force veteran, Dr. Jannell MacAulay has managed human performance under high-stress situations for over two decades. As a military leader and combat pilot, she experienced the same stress, frustration, and fears that leaders and teams in corporate America face daily in their personal and professional lives. Her own personal journey led to earning her Ph.D. with work in the field of strategic health and human performance.
With her innovative leadership style, she was the first leader to introduce mindfulness as a proactive performance strategy within the US military.
Dr. MacAulay is a graduate of the U.S. Air Force Academy, has a master's degree in Kinesiology from The Pennsylvania State University, and a Ph.D. with work in the field of strategic health & human performance. She is a certified wellness educator, yoga instructor, and holds a certificate in plant-based nutrition.
Jannell is a TEDx speaker and mother of two, who is on a mission to help leaders and organizations excel in high-stress and rugged environments, by showing them how to lean into each moment.
Topics we discuss:
- Career Background
- Sole female in flight class.
- 13 years lived with her career in the hustle, which led to constant stress and a lack of joy.
- Found that she lost a connection to herself but was super successful.
- Important self-reflection questions
- What do I value?
- How do I define success?
- What you do is important, but who are we and what really gives us purpose.
- The 5 L’s as a self-reflection tool; Labor, Laugh, Lead, Love, Learn.
- Managing stress
- Sounds counterintuitive; but you have to go slow to go fast.
- We should all want to accelerate our success, but in pursuit of that we lose a lot.
- If you get command of your mind on the pathway to success you won't have to lose a lot; this is contrary to what society says today.
- Productivity
- Define what it means to you and understand what distractions you face.
- Distraction is the number one distractor to our productivity.
- We put too much emphasis on achievement and outcome, versus what we can control.
- We can be productive and happy if we find that harmony.
- Everyone at their own version of their best makes the best team.
- Mindfulness
- Bringing awareness to the moment
- The ability to disconnect from the noise.
- We often focus on what could happen instead of being present.
- Yerkes-Dodson law of stress
- Mindfulness tools and training
- “Mental pushups”; strengthening our attention system to focus in the moment.
- “Mindful minute” before grabbing your phone and being mindful of what you're doing.
- Focus your “flashlight” on what is important in the moment.
References:
- Her website
- Sympathetic vs. parasympathic nervous systems
- Warriors Edge
- Mindfulness
- Eustress vs. Destress
- Mike Gervais
Credits:
Lead editor + Producer: Ruf Holmes
Music:
Main Theme: "Eaze Does It" by Shye Eaze and DJ Rufbeats, a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.
All music created by DJ Rufbeats

Thursday Apr 22, 2021
Falguni and Kruti (Getting Hotter)/// Let’s Talk About Menopause/// Season5:E122
Thursday Apr 22, 2021
Thursday Apr 22, 2021
To all the women out there, how hot are you feeling?
And we don’t mean looks; we’re talking menopause.
To all the men out there, take notes, this applies to you too.
The stigma surrounding menopause prevents many women from feeling comfortable discussing the natural aging processes of the female body. It's important to create an open dialogue for women to share their experiences and have a support system through this transition, so they are not alone.
Who better to discuss this with than the creators of “Getting Hotter”, Falguni and Kruti. They discuss their personal experiences with perimenopause, and the lack of dialogue they experienced even within their friendship. This lack of dialogue became the catalyst for creating “Getting Hotter”. The idea behind “Getting Hotter” was to create a space where women could gather and feel comfortable discussing this new transition in their life. Their arsenal of tools help women find support through a community undergoing these same changes. It also is a platform to create open dialogues with others in their life such as their partners. Creating a compassionate and supportive environment that empowers women to embrace the transition is only a part of the successes of “Getting Hotter”. Tune in for an important conversation meant for every gender so you can learn a few ways on how to support those important women in your life.
“You can just let them know you're getting hotter” -Falguni and Kruti (Getting Hotter)
Falguni is a writer, director & media executive for Vice TV. A certified mindfulness coach who is an enthusiastic albeit sometimes impatient mother of an eight-year-old girl and a ten-year-old boy.
Kruti is an architect, designer, filmmaker and an all-around entrepreneurial mother of seven-year-old twins and their nine year old sister.
Both went through perimenopause, and although they are best friends, they didn't talk about it even though they were on the journey at the same time. Thus, they co-founded getting Hotter.
Let's reinforce the message that women are only "Getting Hotter"!
Topics we discuss:
- Menopause journey
- You start to heat up and feel more irritable.
- Burning sensation running up to your head.
- You experience anger without realizing it.
- Depth breaths are used as a tool to become more aware.
- What is menopause?
- Technically the sensation of menstruation, without the cycle.
- After 12 months of the onset of symptoms you have no period anymore.
- Perimenopause: giant gray area that affects daily life.
- Does not only affect women, it affects their partners too.
- Most women are unaware there going through it.
- Cultural differences
- Some religions won’t let you go to the temple on your period, because your “unclean”.
- In India women were frowned upon when on their period.
- Considered it “dirty.”
- Menopause still told less than now, stigma.
- So much of this social stigma around the uncleanliness is handed down from cultures.
- Open conversations around Menopause: bringing it into the vernacular.
- How to have the conversation with men in your life.
- This affects partners and family members not only the woman.
- How to make the conversation normal.
- Understanding that women are programmed to think we're losing something when going through menopause.
- “Getting Hotter” as a means for menopause resources.
- Natural medicine.
- Provides a toolbox for dealing with Menopause.
- Facebook group chats.
References:
- Perimenopause
- Menopause
- Getting Hotter Web Site
- Hot Flash
- Their Facebook Group
- Chrissy Teigen
- Megan Thee Stallion
- Postpartum depression
Credits:
Lead editor + Producer: Ruf Holmes
Music:
Main Theme: "Eaze Does It" by Shye Eaze and DJ Rufbeats, a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.
All music created by DJ Rufbeats

Thursday Apr 15, 2021
Dane Flanigan /// Find Comfort in the Uncomfortable /// Season5:E121
Thursday Apr 15, 2021
Thursday Apr 15, 2021
“That could never be me.”
Have you ever heard or thought about this phrase before? Maybe when you were passing a homeless person on the street or discussing someone who’s political views differ from yours.
The ability to provide compassion to those who you dissociate from or disagree with, is the philosophy behind genuine compassion. Providing compassion to those who are likeminded is easy and comfortable.
Our guest Dane Flanigan emphasizes the importance of being comfortable when uncomfortable. This mindset and the entrepreneurial spirit, that he says is part of his DNA, have allowed him to embrace the fear of the unknown and chase his passions. All of which led him to where he is today-a successful CEO.
His self-reflective and positive outlook on past and present experiences reflects his affinity to always approach and see people with understanding eyes. He ultimately helps us recognize the interconnectedness of humanity and how positive life can be.
“In order to get to the positive place, we can’t be in the negative space”-Dane Flanigan
Dane Flanigan is originally from Cincinnati, Ohio. He graduated from Ohio State University with a major in Political Science and a minor in Economics. He attended school in Spain at the Spanish American Institute in Sevilla to study international business and the emergence of the European Union. He received his MBA in Los Angeles where he now lives.
Dane has an extensive experience in business management and team building. During his time as a consultant, he worked in corporate due diligence performing mergers and acquisitions. His personal ventures include several real estate projects, starting Perfection Air Charter a private jet brokerage that was later sold to one of the large private jet operators in Texas and the DTLA speakeasy, Ebanos Crossing. He is now the CEO of ultraHealth Agency, a recruiting and staffing firm in Pasadena.
Dane believes in learning from everyone around him and equates his highest strength in life in his ability to listen.
Topics we discuss:
- Starting Businesses
- You cannot do everything at an elevated level.
- Picking up a new hobby of photography and starting at a low level.
- Creativity helps expand the brain.
- Believe in being consumed by the positive things in life.
- Professional Career Endeavors
- Became a corporate person when he graduated for a while.
- Got into real estate, allowed him to tap into his creative side.
- You must go with the market but with what interests you.
- Entrepreneurship was in his DNA.
- His parents provided with him with the importance of taking risks.
- Education was emphasized to him as the way to succeed.
- Lessons learned from getting into Health care.
- Who health care really is, and the people behind it.
- It's a 24-hour business, but health care professionals aren’t businesspeople.
- Different Hospitals have diverse cultures, with different goals and procedures.
- Ultra health takes a 180 approach, giving solutions to problems, but really listening to people.
- History and its importance
- We are the judge of choosing the things we like and don't.
- Learn what type of leader you do not want to be based on past leaders.
- Informs us how a society can be corrupted,
- Concluding remarks
- How can I be better?
- You do not have to be the same person as you were today.
- I want you to go out and being uncomfortable doing something for someone else.
- To get the positive, you must get away from the negative.
References:
Credits:
Lead editor + Producer: Ruf Holmes
Music:
Main Theme: "Eaze Does It" by Shye Eaze and DJ Rufbeats, a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.
Guest theme: “Bad Soda” by DJ Rufbeats created as a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.

Wednesday Apr 07, 2021
Dr. Donald Grant/// Fire and Empathy /// Season5:E120
Wednesday Apr 07, 2021
Wednesday Apr 07, 2021
Inter-generational trauma is talked about a lot in the context of the oppressed.
Our guest, Dr. Donald Grant, has set out to discuss the full impacts of racism through the inter-generational trauma of the oppressor. Not as a matter of sympathy but a matter of completing the picture and truly breaking down the racist institutions and structures of this country.
We are all affected by the demons of our past, and Dr. Grant schools us with an in-depth conversation that is well worth the listen.
“We have to be able to be honest and say, white people have been told throughout their generational history that they are better than other people” - Dr. Donald Grant
Dr. Donald E Grant Jr is an Equity, Diversity, Inclusion and Impact practitioner and mental health expert who currently serves in two Executive Director roles: one with his boutique training and consulting firm Mindful Training Solutions and the other at Pacific Oaks College’s Center for Community and Social Impact (CCSI).
Dr Grant has a long history of direct mental health service delivery and administrative oversight for foster care systems, education systems and homeless mental wellness services. He is an international speaker and workshop facilitator, film and TV consultant and published author. His two books " A Moon for Us All" and “Black Men, Intergenerational Colonialism and Behavioral Health: A Noose Across Nations” are available now.
Topics we discuss:
- Overview of his research
- Research on children from family members in the Holocaust.
- Intergenerational experience with colonialism.
- How white generations have been impacted.
- Intergenerational lies of supremacy
- Oppressor's role is traumatic.
- Racism as an age bracket
- Inspiration for research and Occupation
- Looking at how this world is moving forward; we are constantly divided.
- Struggle within foster care; Darker skin children have a harder time getting adopted.
- White children don't have that comparable situation.
- Call to action
- Be honest how you experience “otherness”.
- Acknowledge your biases.
- Be willing to participate in the change that's occurring.
References:
- “A Moon for Us All”
- “Black Men, Intergenerational Colonialism and Behavioral Health: A Noose Across Nations”
- Holocaust
- Black Lives Matter
- Defund the Police
- Merriam-Webster; Racism
- Hillbilly Elegy
Credits:
Lead editor + Producer: Ruf Holmes
Music:
Main Theme: "Eaze Does It" by Shye Eaze and DJ Rufbeats, a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.
Guest theme: “Grey to Color” by DJ Rufbeats created as a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.

Thursday Apr 01, 2021
Simone Knego/// Shifting Perspectives /// Season5:E119
Thursday Apr 01, 2021
Thursday Apr 01, 2021
The experiences that come with aging are some of life's greatest lessons. As we go about life creating new experiences, we are constantly guided by the past, influencing current decision making, perspective, and how we view ourselves. Our guest Simone Knego, discusses how her age and experiences have taught her important lessons which have changed her perspective of the world. Her experience of adopting three multicultural children has helped her acknowledge the importance of recognizing “we see color”. This acknowledgment has taught her to honor diversity within her home, as not a means of disadvantage, but what makes us who we are. Not only has she learned the power of acknowledging diversity, but the power of self-confidence. Looking back on her personal life experiences with self-confidence, she comments a noteworthy perspective, “Comparisons rob the joy out of life”. Her past struggle with self-confidence encourages us to end comparisons and start embracing the person you are. Simone Knego is a wife, a mother of 6 children and 3 dogs, a serial entrepreneur, a keynote speaker, and an author who is making major strides in the world. She began her professional life as a Certified Public Accountant in 1995 and in 2000, after settling in Sarasota, Florida, she went back to school to become a teacher, medical device sales, climbed Kilimanjaro. Being a teacher opened her eyes even further to the role schools can play in providing children with stability, especially those who may not experience the comfort of constancy at home. She started getting involved with the Jewish Federation and after witnessing the difference that Jewish Federations can make locally across the globe, she was inspired to play a greater role and became a board member in 2016 of the Sarasota-Manatee Jewish Federation. This journey helped her realize that she had the ability to inspire others to dedicate time and resources to projects, both personal and charitable, that can make a difference in people's lives. Finding a love for public speaking, and having written the book, "The Extraordinary, unordinary, You…She motivates others to see themselves differently so they can impact the world the way they were created to.
Topics we discuss: o Embracing Diversity · Diversity within her family by adopting children; creating a multi-cultural family. · Embracing that “we see color.” · We’re all different in so many ways, and we need to embrace that. · It’s okay to ask questions and make mistakes, if your heart is true. o Her family & Raising children. · Six children, three adopted; one child from South Korea and two from Ethiopia · Raising her children to be good people · The importance of children knowing their loved. o Not being hard on yourself · We look at life like what's the finish line not the journey. · We are our worst critic. · Alot of self-projections of what others would want. · Choose what you love and don't look back, these things change. o Her experience with teaching · Valuable experiences · Ended up with a foster child for nine months. o Self-confidence · You're not meant to be another person, therefore there should be no comparison. · Changing the way, you see yourself, not who you are. · Don't use the word “can’t” means you won't try. · Choosing to not put yourself down, for something that even isn't in the realm of your desire. · Don’t put limits on yourself; know your capable of all things.
References: · Her Book · James Baldwin Conversation Scooter Sent us · Adoption
Credits: Lead editor + Producer: Ruf Holmes
Music: Main Theme: "Eaze Does It" by Shye Eaze and DJ Rufbeats, a More In Common Podcast Exclusive. Guest theme: “Lunch Notes and O’s” by DJ Rufbeats created as a More In Common Podcast Exclusive. |

Saturday Mar 27, 2021
Melissa Weintraub /// Take a seat at the table of change /// Season5:E116
Saturday Mar 27, 2021
Saturday Mar 27, 2021
Division is all around us. Division as we experience it today comes in the form of political affiliation, race and even religion. Conversations within these divided topics tend to become hostile and rarely conclude with understanding or peace; let alone a consensus.
Our guest Melissa Weintraub has dedicated her life to the facilitation of these conversations and deliberation amongst strong religious and political divides; specifically, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. These conflicts reflect the complicated creation of division that stems from our psychological perceptions and projections. Her commitment and dedication to peace gives hope for the prospect of peace throughout the world.
“These storylines, are what drives divide and societal chaos” - Melissa Weintraub
Melissa is the co-founding Executive Director of Resetting the Table, an organization dedicated to building dialogue and deliberation across political divides. Melissa was also the founding director of Encounter, an organization dedicated to strengthening the capacity of the Jewish people to be agents of change in resolving the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Melissa was awarded the Grinnell Young Innovator for Social Justice Prize, which honors demonstrated leadership and extraordinary accomplishment in effecting positive social change. A noted speaker and educator, Melissa has lectured and taught in hundreds of public forums on four continents. She was ordained as a Conservative Rabbi at the Jewish Theological Seminary and graduated from Harvard University summa cum laude.
Topics we discuss:
- Her upbringing influencing her career path.
- Gave her an ability to look for people who are excluded by circumstances.
- At an early age she found a passion for understanding all perspectives
- Curiosity for how people experience the world.
- Bridge building work in Israel and Palestine conflict
- Lack of mutual recognition is the heart of the conflict.
- Understanding each other's point of view would alleviate conflicts.
- How to get people to see each other's point of view
- Getting them to the table is the most difficult part.
- Suspicion and distrust are key struggles from all sides.
- Are you trying to make me betray my values and people behind?
- Fed up with dialogue without action.
- Anti-normalization
- All these dialogues can’t their pain and circumstances without action
- “Echo chamber”
- The Threat
- So much complexity and nuance to who I am, so don't put me in a box.
- Self-protection drives these self-destruction divides.
- More about losing themselves and betrayal.
- Outcome of her work
- Robust humanization
- I see you and you see me; An understanding that we are all human.
- Her work targets the differences not commonality amongst people.
References:
- Gift Pod
- Resetting the Table
- The West Bank
- Intifada
- Spirit of Anti Normalization
- Zach Metz Writing a book
- Hotel Corona- The Daily
- The Film
- Ted Talk from Nigerian Author
Credits:
Lead editor + Producer: Ruf Holmes
Music:
Main Theme: "Eaze Does It" by Shye Eaze and DJ Rufbeats, a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.
Guest theme: "Even Tables" by DJ Rufbeats created as a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.

Thursday Mar 25, 2021
Michelle Wintersteen /// What it Means to be a Girlboss/// Season5:E118
Thursday Mar 25, 2021
Thursday Mar 25, 2021
Women throughout history have demonstrated the power and strength to change the world, regardless of their circumstances.
Today those inspiring and empowering woman movements continue. Although these movements are positive, toxicity can still exist within.
As self-starter, entrepreneur, and a girl boss herself, Michelle Wintersteen offers a conversation that is motivating and honest. She comments on the power of these movements specifically, the toxic side of the Girl Boss culture. While sharing the notion that participating in a movement such as “Girl Boss” does not mean you can’t be critical of aspects within the movement.
There is no better way to celebrate Women in History month, then having a conversation full of positive success stories, honest conversation, and girl bosses.
“We can still be participants of a culture and be critical of them” - Michelle Wintersteen
Michelle aka MKW, is the Brand Designer and Creative Director behind MKW Creative Co. a freelance brand design firm helping to define, design, build and grow vibrant brands for social-media-minded entrepreneurs. The MKWCC brand is dedicated to designing original, unique & bold brands for today’s entrepreneurs and first-time business owners. Her style is bright, casual, honest, but also a little sassy, which reminds her to be thankful she has a job that aligns passion, purpose and personality every damn day.
She is passionate about creating communities around the themes of Branding, Marketing & Entrepreneurship. Whether it’s recording episodes for the Kiss My Aesthetic Podcast, interviewing fellow entrepreneurs through desIGn Live, or co-hosting networking events with Level Community, she truly believes everyone benefits when businesses in our communities thrive.
Topics we discuss:
- Her upbringing and how it has impacted her entrepreneurship.
- Dad worked for a software company.
- Mom did interior design as a hobby.
- Started her first business endeavor as a junior/senior in college.
- Started off by creating logos for her art department.
- Girl boss culture
- The tendency for movements to be toxic.
- You can be critical of movement but still participate in it.
- Tendency at times to create a double standard.
- Censorship and terms and conditions
- You sign terms and conditions; A platform gets to decide regulation etc.
- How do we create a world people want to see?
- Age of curated information
- Issue of taking people at face value.
- Clubhouse, and the issues that come along with it; Becomes a liability to your brand.
- Branding
- Color theory
- Brag worthy brands
- The power of social media with branding
- Recognizability within brands
- Being intentional with design
References:
- MKW Creative Brand Company
- James Baldwin and his quote about loving America but not loving everything about it.
- Brene Brown
- Girl Boss
- Club House
- Dumplin (The Movie)
- Space X
Credits:
Lead editor + Producer: Ruf Holmes
Music:
Main Theme: "Eaze Does It" by Shye Eaze and DJ Rufbeats, a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.
Guest theme: "Graphic Noted Dipped" by DJ Rufbeats created as a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.

Thursday Mar 18, 2021
Isabelle Stillman /// Life has no mold, be bold /// Season5:E117
Thursday Mar 18, 2021
Thursday Mar 18, 2021
It’s only human to question our purpose.
So often it seems impossible to pursue a life of purpose while we have bills piled up and food to eat. When we do pursue our purpose that choice doesn't always reflect our parent’s desire for our lives or societies life mold.
Isabelle Stillman represents a balance between having jobs she's passionate about while contributing to society in a way that gives back more than she could ever receive in return. And she still lives life with passion and joy.
Her pioneering mindset inspires us to do the same by redefining and challenging society's conceptual definition of success. Successively breaking the mold created for what life “should” be and instead being bold with our careers we feel passion toward.
" Artists perceive reality differently" - Isabelle Stillman
Isabelle Stillman, raised in Missouri, now living in L.A. as a guitarist, songwriter and singer began creating her album while working as a high school English teacher in Denver. Through a journey of self-realization, she would uproot herself to spend a year traveling on her first national tour, a momentum abruptly ended by the outbreak of the coronavirus. This massive change and the dismantling of her life as she knew it led Stillman to discover the beauty that comes from opening up, leading with heart, leaning into pain and confusion, and ultimately, letting go.
Stillman often attributes her groundedness to her strong family life. She craved music from an early age, always singing and growing up with her parents’ music as the soundtrack. Stillman was a teenager when she first picked up guitar; but, school remained her primary focus. Systematic learning satiated her — the definition of “success” so clearly defined. Raised in a community that valued structure, Stillman embraced it. And yet her creativity continued to flow.
Her Latest album, Heartrender, speaks to the universal struggle of opening oneself to new possibilities and relationships — opening your heart to the full spectrum of life. It acknowledges the human condition as one of growth from tragedy, reinvention from discovery, and resilience from pain.
Abandoning the path of traditional genre and ignoring any guidelines, Heartrender is a celebration of self-awareness and the strength in surrendering control to the unexpected turns of a life less planned, cracked open, and more beautiful for it.
Topics we discuss:
- Art and boundary's
- artifact from creation
- the journey- creative writing
- the chateau, artist perceiving reality different, non-fiction
- recreation of memory
- creativity
- creating amongst family
- The journey
- relationship with risk,
- taking the risk
- doing things big
- Current space
- talking to family
- rethinking success
References:
Credits:
Lead editor + Producer: Ruf Holmes
Music:
Main Theme: "Eaze Does It" by Shye Eaze and DJ Rufbeats, a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.
Guest theme: "Party Dress" by Isabelle Stillman