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Welcome to More In Common Podcast With Rodney Campbell and Keith Richardson. This podcast is our social experiment to examine our belief that we all have more in common than that which divides us. With each new guests we have open, honest, and insightful conversation about the things that matter to them.
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Saturday Jul 31, 2021
Witness Without Judgment /// Benjamin Mathes /// E133:(Part 2)
Saturday Jul 31, 2021
Saturday Jul 31, 2021
“Prioritize the relationship over being right.” - Benjamin Mathes
How much power do you give your ego?
Our minds are constantly at war with our ego. This war can stunt growth and the ability to reach our true potential because, with ego there is pride.
Our Guest Benjamin Mathes encourages us to unravel the layers we have built protecting our ego. Once we allow those layers to unravel, we can then find the importance of creating a “Healthy ego”. But first, we must witness our ego without passing judgment.
Today we are with Benjamin Mathes. Benjamin has been an actor for over 20 years. On film, television, and stage he has worked with artists such as Clint Eastwood, Alan Arkin, Sam Raimi, Bradley Cooper, Andy Garcia, Chris Rock, and Brian Grazer.
He has served as an acting coach for Warner Brothers, HBO, and currently for Netflix. Internationally, he runs acting retreats in Ireland, and his career workshops have been held around the world. He is a certified Associate Teacher of Fitzmaurice Voicework®, and has served as vocal and dialect coach for major motion pictures, network television, and theatres around the country.
He is the author of four books: Thought Lozenges for Artists; a daringly optimistic, “open-where-you-want” look into the creative process. “CRASH: Unstuck Yourself”, a guided journal designed to directly combat the blocks holding us from our creative potential. “You, the Career” offers a holistic approach to life and art that allows you to have the career you want without losing the person you are. His most recent book, “Short Paragraphs on Listening”, draws from his experience Free Listening on the streets and is an open-where-you-want book about the power of listening.
Lastly, if that's not enough, Benjamin is the founder of Urban Confessional: A Free Listening Movement. Started as a way to challenge conventional actor training, Urban Confessional is a community of artists who believe people should be heard. They stand on street corners all over the world with signs that say "Free Listening" — and you can imagine what happens next. Their work has been featured in magazines, academic publications, and blogs, and on radio and television. And is now in over 70 countries with thousands of volunteers.
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Topics we discuss:
- Shutting up
- Keeps the ego in check.
- Prioritize relationships over being right.
- Cooling down the need to dominate.
- Is there anything you have left to say?
- Allows you to fully hear the person.
- How you can close a conversation.
- Prioritizes well -being.
- Understanding your own ego
- He learned from religious and artistic practices.
- Helping people develop a healthy version of the ego.
- Divorce helped investigate his ego.
- Practical explanation of ego
- Ego is not the problem, our relationship with ego is the problem.
- We can over define ourselves.
- If we ignore our differences, it hurts the healthy ego.
- Kids vs. Adults
- Younger kids have a healthier ego.
- As you grow you create an unhealthier sense of ego.
References:

Thursday Jul 29, 2021
Witness Without Judgment /// Benjamin Mathes /// E133:(Part 1)
Thursday Jul 29, 2021
Thursday Jul 29, 2021
“Prioritize the relationship over being right.” - Benjamin Mathes
How much power do you give your ego?
Our minds are constantly at war with our ego. This war can stunt growth and the ability to reach our true potential because, with ego there is pride.
Our Guest Benjamin Mathes encourages us to unravel the layers we have built protecting our ego. Once we allow those layers to unravel, we can then find the importance of creating a “Healthy ego”. But first, we must witness our ego without passing judgment.
Today we are with Benjamin Mathes. Benjamin has been an actor for over 20 years. On film, television, and stage he has worked with artists such as Clint Eastwood, Alan Arkin, Sam Raimi, Bradley Cooper, Andy Garcia, Chris Rock, and Brian Grazer.
He has served as an acting coach for Warner Brothers, HBO, and currently for Netflix. Internationally, he runs acting retreats in Ireland, and his career workshops have been held around the world. He is a certified Associate Teacher of Fitzmaurice Voicework®, and has served as vocal and dialect coach for major motion pictures, network television, and theatres around the country.
He is the author of four books: Thought Lozenges for Artists; a daringly optimistic, “open-where-you-want” look into the creative process. “CRASH: Unstuck Yourself”, a guided journal designed to directly combat the blocks holding us from our creative potential. “You, the Career” offers a holistic approach to life and art that allows you to have the career you want without losing the person you are. His most recent book, “Short Paragraphs on Listening”, draws from his experience Free Listening on the streets and is an open-where-you-want book about the power of listening.
Lastly, if that's not enough, Benjamin is the founder of Urban Confessional: A Free Listening Movement. Started as a way to challenge conventional actor training, Urban Confessional is a community of artists who believe people should be heard. They stand on street corners all over the world with signs that say "Free Listening" — and you can imagine what happens next. Their work has been featured in magazines, academic publications, and blogs, and on radio and television. And is now in over 70 countries with thousands of volunteers.
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Topics we discuss:
- Shutting up
- Keeps the ego in check.
- Prioritize relationships over being right.
- Cooling down the need to dominate.
- Is there anything you have left to say?
- Allows you to fully hear the person.
- How you can close a conversation.
- Prioritizes well -being.
- Understanding your own ego
- He learned from religious and artistic practices.
- Helping people develop a healthy version of the ego.
- Divorce helped investigate his ego.
- Practical explanation of ego
- Ego is not the problem, our relationship with ego is the problem.
- We can over define ourselves.
- If we ignore our differences, it hurts the healthy ego.
- Kids vs. Adults
- Younger kids have a healthier ego.
- As you grow you create an unhealthier sense of ego.
References:

Saturday Jul 24, 2021
Exploration of Self /// Devin Larkins (Part1:E132)
Saturday Jul 24, 2021
Saturday Jul 24, 2021
Learn from whomever you meet and connect with” – Devin Larkins
How well do you listen?
How do you increase your capacity to listen?
How do you define laziness?
Devin shares some really helpful functional tips for listening. He is a good soul and feels like the friend and family member we all need.
Devin practices compassion often and shares how he does it. He is a remind of the fact that we get both and good from our parents and those that come before us. We also get to chose what we keep and how we then raise our own children. This conversation is a meandering exploration of listening, parenting, compassion, and even the concept of laziness.
“Get 1% better each day” – Devin Larkins
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Topics we discuss:
- Compassion
- Parenting
- Listening to children
- Allowing questioning
- What does it mean to be lazy
- Listening
- Justice and progress made
References:
Credits:
Lead editor + Producer: Ruf Holmes
Music:
Main Theme: "Eaze Does It" by Shye Eaze and DJ Rufbeats, a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.
All music created by DJ Rufbeats

Thursday Jul 22, 2021
Exploration of Self /// Devin Larkins (Part1:E132)
Thursday Jul 22, 2021
Thursday Jul 22, 2021
Learn from whomever you meet and connect with” – Devin Larkins
How well do you listen?
How do you increase your capacity to listen?
How do you define laziness?
Devin shares some really helpful functional tips for listening. He is a good soul and feels like the friend and family member we all need.
Devin practices compassion often and shares how he does it. He is a remind of the fact that we get both and good from our parents and those that come before us. We also get to chose what we keep and how we then raise our own children. This conversation is a meandering exploration of listening, parenting, compassion, and even the concept of laziness.
“Get 1% better each day” – Devin Larkins
///
Topics we discuss:
- Compassion
- Parenting
- Listening to children
- Allowing questioning
- What does it mean to be lazy
- Listening
- Justice and progress made
References:
Credits:
Lead editor + Producer: Ruf Holmes
Music:
Main Theme: "Eaze Does It" by Shye Eaze and DJ Rufbeats, a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.
All music created by DJ Rufbeats

Saturday Jul 17, 2021
The Eyes Tell All /// Felipe Blue /// E131:(Part 2)
Saturday Jul 17, 2021
Saturday Jul 17, 2021
Who’s a free thinker in your life?
True free thinkers are few and far between. At More In Common Podcast, the importance of hiring people who challenge what you're doing and thinking is what our guest, and former producer, Ruf Holmes reflected on. But he's much more than a producer; he's an individual filled with talent and creativity who never fails to offer great insight.
Now it’s his turn to take the mic as he reflects on his time as our producer, discusses his personal life and important current issues. Although it's the end of an era for our talented producer we thank him for the impact and dedication he displayed, we honor you!
“Compassion most of all is listening and hearing”- Ruff Holmes.
Today we are with Felipe Blue. He is More Than Therapy’s Founder, Lead Therapist, and Award-Winning Author Felipe helps families, couples, and individuals navigate the stages of their life by providing necessary coping skills for their emotional, mental, and spiritual well-being.
He provides mental health and addictions therapy, family therapy, individual therapy, life coaching, peer support, supervision and consultations. When he is not attending to his or other’s mental health, he is a writer, producer and songwriter, poet, photographer, videographer, graphic artist, and more.
Topics we discuss:
- Growth over the two years with More in Common
- Clear and constant communication.
- Fear of the follow up got better.
- Learned how to understand people's personalities better.
- Editing and listening to conversations of guests
- Found many lessons in ways people view life.
- Offered a multitude of perspectives.
- False interpretation of the “Black agenda”
- The real agenda is to live and survive in this world.
- Misconception on what the meaning is, people view it in a negative light.
- It’s a way to live and think freely.
- Systems that are in place holding back groups
- Systematic racism simplified.
- All systems have a dramatic impact on success.
References:
- His Website
- Jim Crow South
- Sharecropping
- Rainbow Row?
- "Sundownish"
- Forming of Australia
Credits:
Lead editor + Producer: Ruf Holmes
Music:
Main Theme: "Eaze Does It" by Shye Eaze and DJ Rufbeats, a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.
All music created by DJ Rufbeats

Thursday Jul 15, 2021
The Eyes Tell All /// Felipe Blue /// E131:(Part 1)
Thursday Jul 15, 2021
Thursday Jul 15, 2021
Who’s a free thinker in your life?
True free thinkers are few and far between. At More In Common Podcast, the importance of hiring people who challenge what you're doing and thinking is what our guest, and former producer, Ruf Holmes reflected on. But he's much more than a producer; he's an individual filled with talent and creativity who never fails to offer great insight.
Now it’s his turn to take the mic as he reflects on his time as our producer, discusses his personal life and important current issues. Although it's the end of an era for our talented producer we thank him for the impact and dedication he displayed, we honor you!
“Compassion most of all is listening and hearing”- Ruff Holmes.
Today we are with Felipe Blue. He is More Than Therapy’s Founder, Lead Therapist, and Award-Winning Author Felipe helps families, couples, and individuals navigate the stages of their life by providing necessary coping skills for their emotional, mental, and spiritual well-being.
He provides mental health and addictions therapy, family therapy, individual therapy, life coaching, peer support, supervision and consultations. When he is not attending to his or other’s mental health, he is a writer, producer and songwriter, poet, photographer, videographer, graphic artist, and more.
Topics we discuss:
- Growth over the two years with More in Common
- Clear and constant communication.
- Fear of the follow up got better.
- Learned how to understand people's personalities better.
- Editing and listening to conversations of guests
- Found many lessons in ways people view life.
- Offered a multitude of perspectives.
- False interpretation of the “Black agenda”
- The real agenda is to live and survive in this world.
- Misconception on what the meaning is, people view it in a negative light.
- It’s a way to live and think freely.
- Systems that are in place holding back groups
- Systematic racism simplified.
- All systems have a dramatic impact on success.
References:
- His Website
- Jim Crow South
- Sharecropping
- Rainbow Row?
- "Sundownish"
- Forming of Australia
Credits:
Lead editor + Producer: Ruf Holmes
Music:
Main Theme: "Eaze Does It" by Shye Eaze and DJ Rufbeats, a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.
All music created by DJ Rufbeats

Thursday Jun 17, 2021
A Producer's Farewell /// Ruff Holmes /// Season5:E130
Thursday Jun 17, 2021
Thursday Jun 17, 2021
Who’s a free thinker in your life?
True free thinkers are few and far between. At More In Common Podcast, the importance of hiring people who challenge what you're doing and thinking is what our guest, and former producer, Ruf Holmes reflected on. But he's much more than a producer; he's an individual filled with talent and creativity who never fails to offer great insight.
Now it’s his turn to take the mic as he reflects on his time as our producer, discusses his personal life and important current issues. Although it's the end of an era for our talented producer we thank him for the impact and dedication he displayed, we honor you!
“Compassion most of all is listening and hearing”- Ruff Holmes.
Today we are with our Producer who has done so much for this show. Taking More In Common from once a month to once a week. Challenging our ideas and making us better along the way.
Ruf Holmes is a jack of many trades. He works in IT, edits and produces podcasts, and is an extremely talented artist. In fact, he has produced all of the music you have heard for the past 2 years.
Topics we discuss:
- Growth over the two years with More in Common
- Clear and constant communication.
- Fear of the follow up got better.
- Learned how to understand people's personalities better.
- Editing and listening to conversations of guests
- Found many lessons in ways people view life.
- Offered a multitude of perspectives.
- False interpretation of the “Black agenda”
- The real agenda is to live and survive in this world.
- Misconception on what the meaning is, people view it in a negative light.
- It’s a way to live and think freely.
- Systems that are in place holding back groups
- Systematic racism simplified.
- All systems have a dramatic impact on success.
References:
- Patrick Furlong Episode
- Dr. Grant's Episode
- Legislation regulating Trans Rights
- Jim Lowry's Episode
- Chicago Shooting of 13 year old from March/April
- Minnesota officer convicted
- The Movie Get Out
- The movie 10 years
Credits:
Lead editor + Producer: Ruf Holmes
Music:
Main Theme: "Eaze Does It" by Shye Eaze and DJ Rufbeats, a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.
All music created by DJ Rufbeats

Saturday Jun 12, 2021
Part (2): Jason Primrose/// Build Your Universe/// Season5:E129
Saturday Jun 12, 2021
Saturday Jun 12, 2021
What's your relationship with validation?
We often seek others' approval, in hopes that the external validation obtained will bring us something that we cannot provide for ourselves. However, this desire, not uncommon, only leaves us wanting more and feeling unfulfilled.
Once you change how you see yourself not only do you stop the need for validation, but you will change how you see the world entirely. This journey is quite powerful.
Our guest Jason Primrose, found that embracing his desire for validation as something that is always present, gave him the awareness to work on it. This acknowledgment in his personal life, transferred into his life as a writer, by bringing and building a transformative world to his readers, that is authentic to who he is.
“I think I can handle it is the thing you say when fear wants you to stop”- Jason Primrose.
Jason has been obsessed with conceptualizing alternate worlds and characters since childhood.
Their origins were devised as allegorical and subconscious outlets that expressed both his trials and triumphs as an LGBTQ+ person of color and struggles with finding his voice, focus, and purpose as a multi-hyphenate creative. Out of this, the Lost Children of Andromeda universe was born.
Primrose does have a hopeful worldview, even in a current climate that does seem a work of apocalyptic fiction. It makes the nuances of his storytelling more thoughtful and relevant.
His creative gifts have powered a decade long career in creative strategy, digital and experiential.
marketing, and influencer partnerships for key industries -- from beauty to tech, from fashion to
entertainment.
Jason is still called on by agencies and brands alike to catapult products, messaging, and experiences to new-age consumers, championing diversity across all industries and campaigns.
Topics we discuss:
- Process of unlearning the need for validation.
- Belief that I need validation.
- Need for validation never goes away, you just become aware.
- You get to choose yourself.
- Childhood's impact
- As children we think everything is our fault.
- We then perceive the world from a different perspective.
- If needs are not meant, it shows up in patterns in our life.
- What happens when you listen to your ego?
- The ego is meant to protect.
- Have the ego sit next to you.
- What you resist, persists.
- Impact of writers
- Importance of independent publishing.
- Creating content to reach and inspire others.
- Overall vision for the universe
- A Universe to be a transformative experience that is global.
- All inclusive.
- The power of banding together.
- His upbringing
- Family allowed him to watch fantasia on repeat.
- Parents encouraged him to write.
- Spent a lot of time alone and creating.
References:
- No more mister nice guy (A book)
- Ontological Work
- His book - '205Z'
- Lost Children of Andromeda - His other book
- Jeremy Thatcher Dragon Hatcher (Book)
Credits:
Lead editor + Producer: Ruf Holmes
Music:
Main Theme: "Eaze Does It" by Shye Eaze and DJ Rufbeats, a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.
All music created by DJ Rufbeats

Thursday Jun 10, 2021
Part (1): Jason Primrose/// Build Your Universe/// Season5:E129
Thursday Jun 10, 2021
Thursday Jun 10, 2021
What's your relationship with validation?
We often seek others' approval, in hopes that the external validation obtained will bring us something that we cannot provide for ourselves. However, this desire, not uncommon, only leaves us wanting more and feeling unfulfilled.
Once you change how you see yourself not only do you stop the need for validation, but you will change how you see the world entirely. This journey is quite powerful.
Our guest Jason Primrose, found that embracing his desire for validation as something that is always present, gave him the awareness to work on it. This acknowledgment in his personal life, transferred into his life as a writer, by bringing and building a transformative world to his readers, that is authentic to who he is.
“I think I can handle it is the thing you say when fear wants you to stop”- Jason Primrose.
Jason has been obsessed with conceptualizing alternate worlds and characters since childhood.
Their origins were devised as allegorical and subconscious outlets that expressed both his trials and triumphs as an LGBTQ+ person of color and struggles with finding his voice, focus, and purpose as a multi-hyphenate creative. Out of this, the Lost Children of Andromeda universe was born.
Primrose does have a hopeful worldview, even in a current climate that does seem a work of apocalyptic fiction. It makes the nuances of his storytelling more thoughtful and relevant.
His creative gifts have powered a decade long career in creative strategy, digital and experiential.
marketing, and influencer partnerships for key industries -- from beauty to tech, from fashion to
entertainment.
Jason is still called on by agencies and brands alike to catapult products, messaging, and experiences to new-age consumers, championing diversity across all industries and campaigns.
Topics we discuss:
- Process of unlearning the need for validation.
- Belief that I need validation.
- Need for validation never goes away, you just become aware.
- You get to choose yourself.
- Childhood's impact
- As children we think everything is our fault.
- We then perceive the world from a different perspective.
- If needs are not meant, it shows up in patterns in our life.
- What happens when you listen to your ego?
- The ego is meant to protect.
- Have the ego sit next to you.
- What you resist, persists.
- Impact of writers
- Importance of independent publishing.
- Creating content to reach and inspire others.
- Overall vision for the universe
- A Universe to be a transformative experience that is global.
- All inclusive.
- The power of banding together.
- His upbringing
- Family allowed him to watch fantasia on repeat.
- Parents encouraged him to write.
- Spent a lot of time alone and creating.
References:
- No more mister nice guy (A book)
- Ontological Work
- His book - '205Z'
- Lost Children of Andromeda - His other book
- Jeremy Thatcher Dragon Hatcher (Book)
Credits:
Lead editor + Producer: Ruf Holmes
Music:
Main Theme: "Eaze Does It" by Shye Eaze and DJ Rufbeats, a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.
All music created by DJ Rufbeats

Saturday Jun 05, 2021
Saturday Jun 05, 2021
Our daily lives revolve around communication.
When communication is ineffective, or lacking, the goals of companies and teams are on the line. Conversations take place numerous times throughout a day, and we can’t escape them.
Therefore, we must find a way to embrace them.
Our guests, Essential Partners, immerse us in the world of conversation and discuss how they create mission driven spaces structured on communication. They encourage our audience to lean into curiosity in hopes that engaging in conversations that help you learn a lot, not only about another person, but also yourself.
“Taking time to focus on relationships creates better results” - Essential Partners
Today we are with Katie Hyten and John Sarrouf of Essential Partners. They are Co-Executive Directors
And John is the Director of Program development.
Founded in 1989, Essential Partners equips people to live and work better together in community by building trust and understanding across differences.
Katie joined the organization after completing her graduate studies at Tufts University's Fletcher School, where her research in religious conflicts focused on the need for effective communication in complex political issues.
Katie helped develop the first university-wide inter-religious institute at Pepperdine University. She has worked with Search for Common Ground in Lebanon, RESULTS Educational Fund in Washington, DC, and as a mediator in the Massachusetts District Courts.
John was first exposed to EP's work while studying in the master's program in dispute resolution at the University of Massachusetts in Boston. Since then, John has facilitated dialogues on issues such as sustainability, gender, Israel-Palestine, religious pluralism, and technology and sexuality.
John served as the Assistant Director of Difficult Dialogues at Clark University, where he taught dialogue to faculty and students. His private consulting work has focused on mediation and transforming conflict in small workgroups and non-profit boards.
Topics we discuss:
- Embracing your own curiosity
- Picking up on something someone said.
- How jobs intersect beliefs.
- Level of curiosity of self
- Why do we stay in conversations?
- “I” statements.
- Understanding that you know can step away.
- Relationships
- People feel justified that “I don't have to like you”.
- Build relationships through conversations.
- How people see things.
- Hope
- Hope more powerful than fear.
- It is the thing that brings you life.
- Tough conversions
- They are worth having.
- How do you have them?
- How do you view conflict?
References:
- Their Website - Essential Partners
- Sophie Beren's Episode
- Synagaug shooting in Pittsburgh
- Shootings in GA spa
- Behave - Robert Sapolsky
Credits:
Lead editor + Producer: Ruf Holmes