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Welcome to More In Common Podcast With Rodney Campbell and Keith Richardson. This podcast is our social experiment to examine our belief that we all have more in common than that which divides us. With each new guests we have open, honest, and insightful conversation about the things that matter to them.
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Thursday Aug 26, 2021
Donut God To Demi-God /// Melissa Stecher /// EP137:Part1
Thursday Aug 26, 2021
Thursday Aug 26, 2021
What stands in your way of feeling accomplished?
Is it your habits or behaviors?
Our guest Melissa Stecher is a mom, owner, creator, and a master of taking control of her life. She's walked the long road of changing habits, behaviors, and her mindset to bring hope into her life. Her inspiring conversation provides hope to others that they to can do the same.
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Today we are with Melissa Stecher. She is the owner & creator of Hopeful Simplicity. In 2017 she reached her snapping point. As a mom, full-time employee, co-parent, blending families, some personal health issues and still being asked all those 'at-home' questions like 'what's for dinner?' she broke.
She was angry and tired all the time and knew that wasn't the person she wanted to be. This is when
she started swapping. Swapping bad habits for better ones, like making her bed each
morning just to feel like she was accomplishing something each day.
They swapped harsh chemical products for natural options and the whole home team started cleaning. They even swapped unsuccessful organizing systems for compromised successes. In 2018 she took a leap of faith in herself and got certified as a professional organizer. Now, not only does she get to save time, save money and live less stressed but she gets to help others find Hope in their chaos & clutter.
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Topics we discuss:
- Just shutting up
- What it means to pull too hard-to-get information
- Introversion and extroversion
- Collaborating with different personalities
- Managing energy when working with others
- Being a Nerd
- Gender Roles within Family
- Making a collaborative household of responsibility
References:
- Chris Hemsworth
- Chris Evans - Body Image issues
- Reference to Ashwin's Episode
- Gen Con
- Harley Quinn
- Funko Pops
- Hopeful Simplicity
Credits:
Lead editor + Producer: Ruf Holmes
Music:
Main Theme: "Eaze Does It" by Shye Eaze and DJ Rufbeats, a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.
All music created by DJ Rufbeats

Saturday Aug 21, 2021
Ask Questions and Listen /// Ashwin Chacko /// Part2:EP136
Saturday Aug 21, 2021
Saturday Aug 21, 2021
What is culture? Do you think we have a common, national culture?
It’s complicated…
Culture is an amalgamation of ideas, histories, life experiences and many other things. Every culture has subcultures, and the more connected we become the more culture becomes dispersed.
This is a challenge for many as we look to define what our common culture is and could be.
In this conversation with Ashwin, we talk deeply about what that looks like. And we dig in on some ideas that could easily be chalked up to biases and prejudices. But, with listening and deep questioning, we really understand where the ideas come from.
Not just base them on the comments made.
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Today we are with Ashwin Chacko. Ashwin is a multi-disciplined illustrator, designer & hand-letterer, working and living in Dublin. He develops and designs conceptual illustrations for advertising campaigns, products, packaging, editorials, children’s books and one off commissions from around the world.
He has published 3 books, "Little Optimist", "Keep At It", and the Children's book "What wondrous Shapes We Are".
His style is influenced by contemporary culture and is rooted in his love for music, comics, tattoos and street art. He loves telling stories, and is interested in uncovering the social interactions that drive culture.
He seeks to capture these moments in bold lines & shapes. His compositions focuses on a strong use of characters intermingled with typography and patterns. He aims to help brands bring people together through the stories embedded in his illustrations.
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Topics we discuss:
- Listening and Asking questions as key to navigating conversation
- Culture and what shapes culture
- Current cultural norms and changes
- Representation in the arts
- Telling Stories
- Making choices
References:
Credits:
Lead editor + Producer: Ruf Holmes
Music:
Main Theme: "Eaze Does It" by Shye Eaze and DJ Rufbeats, a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.
All music created by DJ Rufbeats

Thursday Aug 19, 2021
Ask Questions and Listen /// Ashwin Chacko /// Part1:EP136
Thursday Aug 19, 2021
Thursday Aug 19, 2021
What is culture? Do you think we have a common, national culture?
It’s complicated…
Culture is an amalgamation of ideas, histories, life experiences and many other things. Every culture has subcultures, and the more connected we become the more culture becomes dispersed.
This is a challenge for many as we look to define what our common culture is and could be.
In this conversation with Ashwin, we talk deeply about what that looks like. And we dig in on some ideas that could easily be chalked up to biases and prejudices. But, with listening and deep questioning, we really understand where the ideas come from.
Not just base them on the comments made.
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Today we are with Ashwin Chacko. Ashwin is a multi-disciplined illustrator, designer & hand-letterer, working and living in Dublin. He develops and designs conceptual illustrations for advertising campaigns, products, packaging, editorials, children’s books and one off commissions from around the world.
He has published 3 books, "Little Optimist", "Keep At It", and the Children's book "What wondrous Shapes We Are".
His style is influenced by contemporary culture and is rooted in his love for music, comics, tattoos and street art. He loves telling stories, and is interested in uncovering the social interactions that drive culture.
He seeks to capture these moments in bold lines & shapes. His compositions focuses on a strong use of characters intermingled with typography and patterns. He aims to help brands bring people together through the stories embedded in his illustrations.
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Topics we discuss:
- Listening and Asking questions as key to navigating conversation
- Culture and what shapes culture
- Current cultural norms and changes
- Representation in the arts
- Telling Stories
- Making choices
References:
Credits:
Lead editor + Producer: Ruf Holmes
Music:
Main Theme: "Eaze Does It" by Shye Eaze and DJ Rufbeats, a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.
All music created by DJ Rufbeats

Saturday Aug 14, 2021
Write Your Own Story /// Natalie Christensen /// EP135:Part 2
Saturday Aug 14, 2021
Saturday Aug 14, 2021
“My goal is not to feel like a good person, my goal is to make sure they're okay right now.” - Natalie Christensen
The power of investing in yourself and your identity is truly powerful.
But do you know how powerful it can be?
Our guest Natalie Christensen demonstrates this power in her chosen domain of film. As a film creator she reimagines ways in which she can implement characters of diversity not typical of their common stereotyped characters. But rather give them a role that redefines the way we previously viewed them. As a woman of mixed ethnicity, Natalie demonstrates the power of identity through her compassion and desire to share her love of film. As for the wider audience, the call for change and creativity to be brought in the world is something that calls for a listen.
Today we are with Natalie Christensen. Natalie is a second-year film production student in the School of Film and Television at Loyola Marymount University.
Her films and screenplays have won and been selected in festivals and screenplay competitions across the United States.
Along with her film, she has been a pianist for fourteen years, and produces music scores as well as solo work. In 2020 she released her sophomore album "Accidental Wine" under the artist name Renaissance Woman.
She is also an activist who organized and created a protest group in 2020 called Henrico Justice in her county in Virginia, which held three successful protests until she returned to school. More recently, she planned a Black-Asian Solidarity March in Los Angeles and formed an API Student Coalition at her university.
Her art focuses around pressing issues in the world today, and stories she believes can change the world for the better.
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Topics we discuss:
- Compassion
- Defining difficult conversations
- "Making others feel a certain way"
- Emotional IQ
- Directing
- Being a leader and being vulnerable
- Vulnerability
- Racism…not just teaching white people
- Mixed Race
- Internalized Racism
- Her experience with racism
- Dynamics of API and the monolith of API
References:

Thursday Aug 12, 2021
Write Your Own Story /// Natalie Christensen /// EP135:Part 1
Thursday Aug 12, 2021
Thursday Aug 12, 2021
“My goal is not to feel like a good person, my goal is to make sure they're okay right now.” - Natalie Christensen
The power of investing in yourself and your identity is truly powerful.
But do you know how powerful it can be?
Our guest Natalie Christensen demonstrates this power in her chosen domain of film. As a film creator she reimagines ways in which she can implement characters of diversity not typical of their common stereotyped characters. But rather give them a role that redefines the way we previously viewed them. As a woman of mixed ethnicity, Natalie demonstrates the power of identity through her compassion and desire to share her love of film. As for the wider audience, the call for change and creativity to be brought in the world is something that calls for a listen.
Today we are with Natalie Christensen. Natalie is a second-year film production student in the School of Film and Television at Loyola Marymount University.
Her films and screenplays have won and been selected in festivals and screenplay competitions across the United States.
Along with her film, she has been a pianist for fourteen years, and produces music scores as well as solo work. In 2020 she released her sophomore album "Accidental Wine" under the artist name Renaissance Woman.
She is also an activist who organized and created a protest group in 2020 called Henrico Justice in her county in Virginia, which held three successful protests until she returned to school. More recently, she planned a Black-Asian Solidarity March in Los Angeles and formed an API Student Coalition at her university.
Her art focuses around pressing issues in the world today, and stories she believes can change the world for the better.
///
Topics we discuss:
- Compassion
- Defining difficult conversations
- "Making others feel a certain way"
- Emotional IQ
- Directing
- Being a leader and being vulnerable
- Vulnerability
- Racism…not just teaching white people
- Mixed Race
- Internalized Racism
- Her experience with racism
- Dynamics of API and the monolith of API
References:

Saturday Aug 07, 2021
How To Belong To Oneself /// Yvonne Marchese ///EP134:Part 2
Saturday Aug 07, 2021
Saturday Aug 07, 2021
“No wonder I felt awful, because I was saying awful things to myself” - Yvonne Marchese
What helps you answer and explore the question, who are you?
Answers will vary.
At the most simplistic level, responses to this question can be found in aspects of our life such as passions and self-reflection.
In addition, this question can be reflected in how we respond and treat others, or better yet how we treat ourselves.
Since August is dedicated to the pursuit of happiness, a conversation of becoming one with yourself couldn’t be better timing.
How you can learn to answer the question of who we are, introduces our guest this week, Yvonne Marchese. She joins us in conversation to share her life journey and passions with us. She removes the boundaries placed on her, by her ability to be one with herself which she has found to make the presence of a new day and the present an exciting journey.
Yvonne Marchese is the host of the Late Bloomer Living Podcast, a professional photographer, mom, wife and serial pivoter.
She grew up in El Paso, Texas. In her twenties she sold everything she owned to follow a lifelong dream... moving to New York City where she worked as an actress for 10 years.
She now lives in Norwalk, CT, telling people's stories with her camera and a microphone. Yvonne is of the opinion that stories can change lives… maybe not in an instant, but in laying the seeds of possibility. She's someone who works every day to embrace big, scary, beautiful change and believes it’s never too late to pursue a dream.
It's that belief that led her to start a photography business in her 40s and a podcast in her 50s. She is on a mission to redefine society's ideas on aging and exploring how to live a life by design.
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Topics we discuss:
- Staying curious
- My reaction to situations.
- Focusing on yourself
- Ask about experience not opinion
- Negative self-talk
- Negative self-talk is a bad habit.
- You learn to place limits on yourself.
- Mediating and exercises
- 30-day experiment
- Getting energy from telling stories
- Helped create excitement in her life.
- The limit is yourself
- Found peace in mediation and exercise.
- How we determine the outcome of our life.
- Learning to love the process.
- Raising kids
- Independence takes over.
- The joy they provide.
- How perspectives change.
References:
- Mel Robbins Book (5 second rule)
- Simone Knego's Episode
- Psychology of Belief (Book)
- Plotzing - Definition
- Podcast: The Longest Shortest time
Credits:
Lead editor + Producer: Ruf Holmes
Music:
Main Theme: "Eaze Does It" by Shye Eaze and DJ Rufbeats, a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.
All music created by DJ Rufbeats

Thursday Aug 05, 2021
How To Belong To Oneself /// Yvonne Marchese ///EP134:Part 1
Thursday Aug 05, 2021
Thursday Aug 05, 2021
“No wonder I felt awful, because I was saying awful things to myself” - Yvonne Marchese
What helps you answer and explore the question, who are you?
Answers will vary.
At the most simplistic level, responses to this question can be found in aspects of our life such as passions and self-reflection.
In addition, this question can be reflected in how we respond and treat others, or better yet how we treat ourselves.
Since August is dedicated to the pursuit of happiness, a conversation of becoming one with yourself couldn’t be better timing.
How you can learn to answer the question of who we are, introduces our guest this week, Yvonne Marchese. She joins us in conversation to share her life journey and passions with us. She removes the boundaries placed on her, by her ability to be one with herself which she has found to make the presence of a new day and the present an exciting journey.
Yvonne Marchese is the host of the Late Bloomer Living Podcast, a professional photographer, mom, wife and serial pivoter.
She grew up in El Paso, Texas. In her twenties she sold everything she owned to follow a lifelong dream... moving to New York City where she worked as an actress for 10 years.
She now lives in Norwalk, CT, telling people's stories with her camera and a microphone. Yvonne is of the opinion that stories can change lives… maybe not in an instant, but in laying the seeds of possibility. She's someone who works every day to embrace big, scary, beautiful change and believes it’s never too late to pursue a dream.
It's that belief that led her to start a photography business in her 40s and a podcast in her 50s. She is on a mission to redefine society's ideas on aging and exploring how to live a life by design.
///
Topics we discuss:
- Staying curious
- My reaction to situations.
- Focusing on yourself
- Ask about experience not opinion
- Negative self-talk
- Negative self-talk is a bad habit.
- You learn to place limits on yourself.
- Mediating and exercises
- 30-day experiment
- Getting energy from telling stories
- Helped create excitement in her life.
- The limit is yourself
- Found peace in mediation and exercise.
- How we determine the outcome of our life.
- Learning to love the process.
- Raising kids
- Independence takes over.
- The joy they provide.
- How perspectives change.
References:
- Mel Robbins Book (5 second rule)
- Simone Knego's Episode
- Psychology of Belief (Book)
- Plotzing - Definition
- Podcast: The Longest Shortest time
Credits:
Lead editor + Producer: Ruf Holmes
Music:
Main Theme: "Eaze Does It" by Shye Eaze and DJ Rufbeats, a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.
All music created by DJ Rufbeats

Saturday Jul 31, 2021
Witness Without Judgment /// Benjamin Mathes /// E133:(Part 2)
Saturday Jul 31, 2021
Saturday Jul 31, 2021
“Prioritize the relationship over being right.” - Benjamin Mathes
How much power do you give your ego?
Our minds are constantly at war with our ego. This war can stunt growth and the ability to reach our true potential because, with ego there is pride.
Our Guest Benjamin Mathes encourages us to unravel the layers we have built protecting our ego. Once we allow those layers to unravel, we can then find the importance of creating a “Healthy ego”. But first, we must witness our ego without passing judgment.
Today we are with Benjamin Mathes. Benjamin has been an actor for over 20 years. On film, television, and stage he has worked with artists such as Clint Eastwood, Alan Arkin, Sam Raimi, Bradley Cooper, Andy Garcia, Chris Rock, and Brian Grazer.
He has served as an acting coach for Warner Brothers, HBO, and currently for Netflix. Internationally, he runs acting retreats in Ireland, and his career workshops have been held around the world. He is a certified Associate Teacher of Fitzmaurice Voicework®, and has served as vocal and dialect coach for major motion pictures, network television, and theatres around the country.
He is the author of four books: Thought Lozenges for Artists; a daringly optimistic, “open-where-you-want” look into the creative process. “CRASH: Unstuck Yourself”, a guided journal designed to directly combat the blocks holding us from our creative potential. “You, the Career” offers a holistic approach to life and art that allows you to have the career you want without losing the person you are. His most recent book, “Short Paragraphs on Listening”, draws from his experience Free Listening on the streets and is an open-where-you-want book about the power of listening.
Lastly, if that's not enough, Benjamin is the founder of Urban Confessional: A Free Listening Movement. Started as a way to challenge conventional actor training, Urban Confessional is a community of artists who believe people should be heard. They stand on street corners all over the world with signs that say "Free Listening" — and you can imagine what happens next. Their work has been featured in magazines, academic publications, and blogs, and on radio and television. And is now in over 70 countries with thousands of volunteers.
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Topics we discuss:
- Shutting up
- Keeps the ego in check.
- Prioritize relationships over being right.
- Cooling down the need to dominate.
- Is there anything you have left to say?
- Allows you to fully hear the person.
- How you can close a conversation.
- Prioritizes well -being.
- Understanding your own ego
- He learned from religious and artistic practices.
- Helping people develop a healthy version of the ego.
- Divorce helped investigate his ego.
- Practical explanation of ego
- Ego is not the problem, our relationship with ego is the problem.
- We can over define ourselves.
- If we ignore our differences, it hurts the healthy ego.
- Kids vs. Adults
- Younger kids have a healthier ego.
- As you grow you create an unhealthier sense of ego.
References:

Thursday Jul 29, 2021
Witness Without Judgment /// Benjamin Mathes /// E133:(Part 1)
Thursday Jul 29, 2021
Thursday Jul 29, 2021
“Prioritize the relationship over being right.” - Benjamin Mathes
How much power do you give your ego?
Our minds are constantly at war with our ego. This war can stunt growth and the ability to reach our true potential because, with ego there is pride.
Our Guest Benjamin Mathes encourages us to unravel the layers we have built protecting our ego. Once we allow those layers to unravel, we can then find the importance of creating a “Healthy ego”. But first, we must witness our ego without passing judgment.
Today we are with Benjamin Mathes. Benjamin has been an actor for over 20 years. On film, television, and stage he has worked with artists such as Clint Eastwood, Alan Arkin, Sam Raimi, Bradley Cooper, Andy Garcia, Chris Rock, and Brian Grazer.
He has served as an acting coach for Warner Brothers, HBO, and currently for Netflix. Internationally, he runs acting retreats in Ireland, and his career workshops have been held around the world. He is a certified Associate Teacher of Fitzmaurice Voicework®, and has served as vocal and dialect coach for major motion pictures, network television, and theatres around the country.
He is the author of four books: Thought Lozenges for Artists; a daringly optimistic, “open-where-you-want” look into the creative process. “CRASH: Unstuck Yourself”, a guided journal designed to directly combat the blocks holding us from our creative potential. “You, the Career” offers a holistic approach to life and art that allows you to have the career you want without losing the person you are. His most recent book, “Short Paragraphs on Listening”, draws from his experience Free Listening on the streets and is an open-where-you-want book about the power of listening.
Lastly, if that's not enough, Benjamin is the founder of Urban Confessional: A Free Listening Movement. Started as a way to challenge conventional actor training, Urban Confessional is a community of artists who believe people should be heard. They stand on street corners all over the world with signs that say "Free Listening" — and you can imagine what happens next. Their work has been featured in magazines, academic publications, and blogs, and on radio and television. And is now in over 70 countries with thousands of volunteers.
///
Topics we discuss:
- Shutting up
- Keeps the ego in check.
- Prioritize relationships over being right.
- Cooling down the need to dominate.
- Is there anything you have left to say?
- Allows you to fully hear the person.
- How you can close a conversation.
- Prioritizes well -being.
- Understanding your own ego
- He learned from religious and artistic practices.
- Helping people develop a healthy version of the ego.
- Divorce helped investigate his ego.
- Practical explanation of ego
- Ego is not the problem, our relationship with ego is the problem.
- We can over define ourselves.
- If we ignore our differences, it hurts the healthy ego.
- Kids vs. Adults
- Younger kids have a healthier ego.
- As you grow you create an unhealthier sense of ego.
References:

Saturday Jul 24, 2021
Exploration of Self /// Devin Larkins (Part1:E132)
Saturday Jul 24, 2021
Saturday Jul 24, 2021
Learn from whomever you meet and connect with” – Devin Larkins
How well do you listen?
How do you increase your capacity to listen?
How do you define laziness?
Devin shares some really helpful functional tips for listening. He is a good soul and feels like the friend and family member we all need.
Devin practices compassion often and shares how he does it. He is a remind of the fact that we get both and good from our parents and those that come before us. We also get to chose what we keep and how we then raise our own children. This conversation is a meandering exploration of listening, parenting, compassion, and even the concept of laziness.
“Get 1% better each day” – Devin Larkins
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Topics we discuss:
- Compassion
- Parenting
- Listening to children
- Allowing questioning
- What does it mean to be lazy
- Listening
- Justice and progress made
References:
Credits:
Lead editor + Producer: Ruf Holmes
Music:
Main Theme: "Eaze Does It" by Shye Eaze and DJ Rufbeats, a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.
All music created by DJ Rufbeats