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Welcome to More In Common Podcast With Rodney Campbell and Keith Richardson. This podcast is our social experiment to examine our belief that we all have more in common than that which divides us. With each new guests we have open, honest, and insightful conversation about the things that matter to them.
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Thursday Jan 20, 2022
Past does not Define the Present /// Lisa Davis /// EP147:Part1
Thursday Jan 20, 2022
Thursday Jan 20, 2022
Everyone goes through a journey from the beginning to the end. It's easy to look at our stories and think about our limitations and how they will prevent us from doing more.
That voice inside tells you one thing that reality doesn't seem to support. Then we focus so much on "what is" because we can't see "what could be."
Lisa is an excellent example of looking at life through the lens of what is possible while working through all the early challenges to living a life that feels like she is the best version of herself and still getting better.
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Today we are with Lisa Davis, MPH. Lisa has two decades of experience as a health educator and a broadcaster. She has a Master's Degree in Public Health, is creator, host, and producer of the syndicated "It's Your Health" radio heard on regional NPR as well as host/producer of "Talk Healthy Today" brought to you by Pocket Media (of Clean Eating, Vegetarian Times, Better Nutrition. Muscle & Performance, Yoga Journal magazines).
She is host/producer of Naturally Savvy Radio heard online on RadioMD, iHeart Radio Talk, TuneIn, Stitcher, iTunes, UberRadio, and TalkStreamLive. Lisa is also the co-creator and co-host of the podcast "Active Allyship...it's more than a #hashtag!"
In addition to developing radio shows, Lisa has created, produced, and hosted health television shows if it doesn't seem like enough. Her first show, Health Power, was seen on KRUZ-TV in California. She was also a regular contributor to Carol Alt's national health TV show on FOX News Channel, A Healthy You.
She also authored her books, Clean Eating, Dirty Sex: Sensual Superfoods and Aphrodisiac Practices for Ultimate Sexual Health and Easy to Love but Hard to Live with: Real People, Invisible Disabilities, True Stories.
Her core passion is helping people find they're why to enable them to live their healthiest life.
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Topics we discuss:
- Active Listening
- How she employs it with her daughter
- Navigating our boundaries with others
- Othering
- Growing up with an Anti-Racist environment
- Speaking up no matter what
- What it was like growing up
- Gaining confidence
- Being herself after many years of being shy
References:
- Lisadavismph.com
- Clean Eating / Dirty Sex - Her Book
- Naturallysavvy.com
- Dr. David Campt
- September 18th Rally
- Non Verbal Learning Disorder
- Autism Spectrum Disorder
- Authoritarian vs. Authoritative parenting
Credits:
Music:
Main Theme: "Eaze Does It" by Shye Eaze and DJ Rufbeats, a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.
All music created by DJ Rufbeats

Thursday Jan 13, 2022
Genius is Not Perfect /// Ben and Fitz /// EP146:Part2
Thursday Jan 13, 2022
Thursday Jan 13, 2022
No matter how much effort you put into something, it's never done alone. This applies to everyone, including the smartest or most athletic.
A genius doesn't create without supplies, funding, or assistance to contribute to their field of study. Like an athlete doesn't get to show their skills if the structure of sport doesn't exist.
This is highlighted by Ben and Fitz in this Part 2 episode of their conversation. They talk about the Genius Myth and the importance of recognizing it when building highly collaborative and effective teams.
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Brian (Fitz) is the Founder and CTO of Tock, and he started Google's Chicago engineering office in 2005. An open-source contributor for over 13 years, Brian was the engineering manager for several Google products, and is a member of the Apache Software Foundation, a former engineer at Apple and CollabNet, and a Subversion developer,
Ben is a co-founder & author of Subversion, a popular version-control tool to help programmers collaborate. He also co-authored the main O'Reilly manual for the software. He is currently the engineering Site Lead for Google's Chicago office, having joined Google in 2005 as one of the first two engineers in Chicago. He manages multiple teams working on Google's Search-serving infrastructure.
Together they have collaborated on multiple talks and books regarding the social challenges of software development. They have given dozens of talks at conferences (many viewable on youtube), and authored a popular O'Reilly book on the subject: Debugging Teams: Better Productivity through Collaboration.
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Topics we discuss:
- Privilege
- The relative nature of privilege
- Seeing privilege
- Their Book - Debugging Teams
- Genius Myth
- Working together in a creative space
- Peter Principle
- Understanding others
- Pursue what makes sense for each
References:
- ORD Camp
- Crucial Conversations
- H.A.L.T. - Hungry, Angry, Lonely, Tired
- Free Book - Debugging Teams
- Nikola Tesla and Thomas Edison
- Peter Principle
Credits:
Music:
Main Theme: "Eaze Does It" by Shye Eaze and DJ Rufbeats, a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.
All music created by DJ Rufbeats

Thursday Jan 06, 2022
Fixing Culture is a Moral Imperative /// Ben and Fitz /// EP146:Part1
Thursday Jan 06, 2022
Thursday Jan 06, 2022
Culture is an agreed-upon set of values and norms that we accept and embrace. In organizations, if these aren't intentional and established, the company is not likely to operate at its best.
Ben and Fitz came to some remarkable conclusions about Culture in the collective time at Google causing them to write their book, Debugging Teams.
Their goal is to ensure teams operate at their best by being intentional about how they work together and for each other.
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Brian (Fitz) is the Founder and CTO of Tock, and he started Google's Chicago engineering office in 2005. An open-source contributor for over 13 years, Brian was the engineering manager for several Google products, and is a member of the Apache Software Foundation, a former engineer at Apple and CollabNet, and a Subversion developer,
Ben is a co-founder & author of Subversion, a popular version-control tool to help programmers collaborate. He also co-authored the central O'Reilly manual for the software. He is currently the engineering Site Lead for Google's Chicago office, having joined Google in 2005 as one of the first two engineers in Chicago. He manages multiple teams working on Google's Search-serving infrastructure.
Together they have collaborated on multiple talks and books regarding the social challenges of software development. They have given dozens of talks at conferences (many viewable on youtube), and authored a popular O'Reilly book on the subject: Debugging Teams: Better Productivity through Collaboration.
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Topics we discuss:
- Learning when to speak
- Using a 20 sided die as a tool
- Learning to listen
- Finding Common Ground
- Taking a break
- H.A.L.T.
- When it's not possible
- Ending Phone Notifications
- Moral Imperative of fixing Culture
- Their growth to seeing the importance
- Observations of the pandemic
- Earn Trust
References:
- ORD Camp
- Crucial Conversations
- H.A.L.T. - Hungry, Angry, Lonely, Tired
- Free Book - Debugging Teams
- Nikola Tesla and Thomas Edison
- Peter Principle
Credits:
Music:
Main Theme: "Eaze Does It" by Shye Eaze and DJ Rufbeats, a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.
All music created by DJ Rufbeats

Thursday Dec 23, 2021
History is Accountability and Atonement /// Paula Yoo /// EP145:Part2
Thursday Dec 23, 2021
Thursday Dec 23, 2021
History is always 20/20 if we decide to look. Looking at history from the present perspective is a flawed exercise loaded with past judgment.
Too often, we don't look at history from the present it once represented. As a result, we don't see the perspectives of those that came before us and what they did to give us what we have today.
Paula beautifully discusses this phenomenon relative to those who had to stay silent for us to be able to speak today.
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We are with award-winning book author, TV writer/producer, and feature screenwriter Paula Yoo. Hailing from Los Angeles, CA, she loves to spend time hanging with her family and cats.
Her latest Young Adult narrative non-fiction book, FROM A WHISPER TO A RALLYING CRY: The Killing of Vincent Chin and the Trial that Galvanized the Asian American Movement, is from Norton Young Readers (W.W. Norton & Company). Her books have won many awards, including IRA Notables, Junior Guild Library Selections, and starred reviews from Kirkus.
Paula's TV credits include Freeform's Pretty Little Liars: The Perfectionists, The CW's Supergirl, SyFy's Defiance, Eureka, Amazon's Mozart in the Jungle, and NBC's The West Wing. She has also sold TV pilots and feature scripts.
Paula is also a professional violinist, but not just as a hobby…she has played with the Southeast Symphony, Vicente Chamber Orchestra, Torrance Symphony, Glendale Philharmonic and Detroit Civic Symphony Orchestra, toured and recorded with bands including Il Divo, No Doubt, Fun, Arthur Lee, Love Revisited and Spiritualized, and appeared on national TV shows and commercial spots, including A&E's The Two Coreys reality show and a United Airlines commercial.
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Topics we discuss:
- AAPI experience
- Coverage variability
- What's still happening
- History of AAPI Hate
- Vincent Chin and her Book
- COVID experience as an Asian Woman
- What framed and influenced her perspective
- Prejudice within the Diaspora
References:
- Paulayoo.com
- Texas Abortion decision
- AAPI history in Illinois mandate
- Vincent Chin
- From a Whisper to a Rallying Cry - Her Book
- Atlanta Spa Shootings
- Sundown Towns
Credits:
Music:
Main Theme: "Eaze Does It" by Shye Eaze and DJ Rufbeats, a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.
All music created by DJ Rufbeats

Thursday Dec 16, 2021
Productive Procrastination /// Paula Yoo /// EP145:Part1
Thursday Dec 16, 2021
Thursday Dec 16, 2021
We are with award-winning book author, TV writer/producer, and feature screenwriter Paula Yoo. Hailing from Los Angeles, CA, she loves to spend time hanging with her family and cats.
Her latest Young Adult narrative non-fiction book, FROM A WHISPER TO A RALLYING CRY: The Killing of Vincent Chin and the Trial that Galvanized the Asian American Movement, is from Norton Young Readers (W.W. Norton & Company). Her books have won many awards, including IRA Notables, Junior Guild Library Selections, and starred reviews from Kirkus.
Paula's TV credits include Freeform's Pretty Little Liars: The Perfectionists, The CW's Supergirl, SyFy's Defiance, and Eureka, Amazon's Mozart in the Jungle, and NBC's The West Wing. She has also sold TV pilots and feature scripts.
Paula is also a professional violinist, but not just as a hobby…she has played with the Southeast Symphony, Vicente Chamber Orchestra, Torrance Symphony, Glendale Philharmonic, and Detroit Civic Symphony Orchestra, toured and recorded with bands including Il Divo, No Doubt, Fun, Arthur Lee, Love Revisited and Spiritualized, and appeared on national TV shows and commercial spots, including A&E's The Two Coreys reality show and a United Airlines commercial.
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Topics we discuss:
- Understanding what holds others back
- Everyone has a pattern
- Ask questions
- Walking away when necessary
- Her process
- How she does all she does
- What she focuses on
- Identity
- Procrastination
- Productively and unproductively
References:
- Paulayoo.com
- Texas Abortion decision
- AAPI history in Illinois mandate
- Vincent Chin
- From a Whisper to a Rallying Cry - Her Book
- Atlanta Spa Shootings
- Sundown Towns
Credits:
Music:
Main Theme: "Eaze Does It" by Shye Eaze and DJ Rufbeats, a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.
All music created by DJ Rufbeats

Thursday Dec 09, 2021
Changing the Education Paradigm /// Brandon Stover /// EP144:Part2
Thursday Dec 09, 2021
Thursday Dec 09, 2021
It's rare these days to get into the field you study in college, especially if you don't go onto a master's or Ph.D. program.
The rising costs of education make it more and more challenging to pursue a field that doesn't set you back financially for a lifetime and aligns with how you want to live your life.
Brandon Stover is reimaging how to deliver education. He envisions a practical approach that provides experiences, not just knowledge.
His ultimate goal is to educate people about the desire while improving the quality of education brought to an employer.
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Brandon Stover believes that the evolution of the world requires the development of the individual. His work strives to evolve the individual by liberating and educating others to have the belief, willpower, & skills to change their lives and discover a fulfilling purpose to change the lives of others.
As a founder, Brandon is launching a personalized, online university that combines a student's passions with skill building to solve the world's most significant challenges. Constantly evolving himself through learning, he is obsessed with delivering this power to others and scaling its impact.
As a podcaster, Brandon is also the host and producer of the Evolve Podcast, a show about how social innovators and founders can change the world. From climate change to education to mental health, he mines the wisdom of visionaries and experts for the tools and tactics to solve these global issues. He also created the Power To Podcast 90 day audio course, which teaches podcasting in just 10 minutes a day and has over 75K downloads to date.
Before these ventures, Brandon has half a decade of experience as a designer, marketer, and educator. His portfolio and body of work can be found at brandonstover.com.
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Topics we discuss:
- The role fear played
- It being energy for movement
- The Higher Education Platform
- What he is building
- How it works
- What's the plan?
- What value you will get.
- Impact on hiring
- Education to Job Pipeline
References:
- Brandon - LinkedIn
- Brandonstover.com
- Benjamin Mathes - Website
- Impact theory - Tom Billieu
- Evolvethe.world
- Power To Podcast
- Victor Frankel's - a man's search for meaning
- Our conversation on his podcast
- Conversation with Pete Mulroy
- Conversation with Jamil Smith
Credits:
Music:
Main Theme: "Eaze Does It" by Shye Eaze and DJ Rufbeats, a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.
All music created by DJ Rufbeats

Thursday Dec 02, 2021
Changing the Education Paradigm /// Brandon Stover /// EP144:Part1
Thursday Dec 02, 2021
Thursday Dec 02, 2021
Time continually evolves our needs and how we access those needs. We have a thirst for knowledge and education, yet, it is increasingly less accessible to us.
Especially education that captures what we want out of life. Giving us the practical experience to pursue what we know we are good at, but it falls outside the parameters of traditional education.
We now can re-envision what education looks like for people and how it can be accessible and practical.
Brandon is thinking differently about giving access to continued education in a way that challenges the status quo.
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Brandon Stover believes that the evolution of the world requires the development of the individual. His work strives to evolve the individual by liberating and educating others to have the belief, willpower, & skills to change their lives and discover a fulfilling purpose to change the lives of others.
As a founder, Brandon is launching a personalized, online university that combines a student's passions with skill building to solve the world's most significant challenges. Constantly evolving himself through learning, he is obsessed with delivering this power to others and scaling its impact.
As a podcaster, Brandon is also the host and producer of the Evolve Podcast, a show about how social innovators and founders can change the world. From climate change to education to mental health, he mines the wisdom of visionaries and experts for the tools and tactics to solve these global issues. He also created the Power To Podcast 90 day audio course, which teaches podcasting in just 10 minutes a day and has over 75K downloads to date.
Before these ventures, Brandon has half a decade of experience as a designer, marketer, and educator. His portfolio and body of work can be found at brandonstover.com.
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Topics we discuss:
- Listening to Understand
○ Seek clarity
○ Validate another's emotions
○ Impact of Podcasting
- Higher Education
○ Evolution of value
○ Is it the golden ticket?
- Growing up
○ How it led to his awareness
- The challenges he faced
References:
- Brandon - LinkedIn
- Brandonstover.com
- Benjamin Mathes - Website
- Impact theory - Tom Billieu
- Evolvethe.world
- Power To Podcast
- Victor Frankel's - a man's search for meaning
- Our conversation on his podcast
- Conversation with Pete Mulroy
- Conversation with Jamil Smith
Credits:
Music:
Main Theme: "Eaze Does It" by Shye Eaze and DJ Rufbeats, a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.
All music created by DJ Rufbeats

Thursday Nov 25, 2021
The Beginning of a Dream /// Jeremiah Smart /// EP143:Part2
Thursday Nov 25, 2021
Thursday Nov 25, 2021
Pursuing our dreams is not easy, and we want it to be, but it is a grind with daily effort to make our reality what we envision it.
Jeremiah Smart is an excellent example of someone living that before his dream is fulfilled. It is never easy, but it becomes easier when we achieve what we set out to do.
However, in the early days, belief and a vision have to drive the perseverance to get where you want to be. Jeremiah embodies that effort, and we are excited to be a part of his early journey.
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Today we are with Jeremiah Smart. 23 and from Baton Rouge, Louisiana. Through his dreams, belief in self, hope, and faith, he fulfilled his life dreams. Currently living in Los Angeles, he produces the Smartway Podcast, where he drops short, weekly pearls of hope and inspiration for anyone who needs a positive boost to their day.
He is an aspiring author and sets out every day to make just one person's life better.
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Topics we discuss:
- Being better
- Better than self
- Better off than parents
- What he has seen in life
- Maintaining Optimism
- Impatience
- Comparing others
- Managing Patience
- What next year looks like for him
References:
- His Podcast - Smartway Podcast
- The Jen Ratio
- Addison Rae Tik Tok
- NBA Young Boy
Credits:
Music:
Main Theme: "Eaze Does It" by Shye Eaze and DJ Rufbeats, a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.
All music created by DJ Rufbeats

Friday Nov 19, 2021
The Beginning of a Dream /// Jeremiah Smart /// EP143:Part1
Friday Nov 19, 2021
Friday Nov 19, 2021
So often, we look in the past to see how people have arrived at the present. It's easy to do because we can pick those we see as a "success" and wonder how they got there.
What is impressive about this conversation with Jeremiah Smart is that we get to initially see someone with the dreams and vision for their future that has yet to pan out.
We don't know where he will end up, but he does, and he will do what it takes to make a difference in this world. This conversation is the beginning of his journey, and we are thrilled to bring that to you.
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Today we are with Jeremiah Smart. 23 and from Baton Rouge, Louisiana. Through his dreams, belief in self, hope, and faith, he fulfilled his life dreams. Currently living in Los Angeles, he produces the Smartway Podcast, where he drops short, weekly pearls of hope and inspiration for anyone who needs a positive boost to their day.
He is an aspiring author and sets out every day to make just one person's life better.
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Topics we discuss:
- Reading Body language
- What is a lie?
- Necessity of lying
- Fib vs. a lie
- Boundaries around lying
- Moving to California
- What impact it has had
- Seeing other's purpose
- Seeing the best in others.
- Traveling to get perspective
- Leaving and pursuing
- Knowing self
References:
- His Podcast - Smartway Podcast
- The Jen Ratio
- Addison Rae Tik Tok
- NBA Young Boy
Credits:
Music:
Main Theme: "Eaze Does It" by Shye Eaze and DJ Rufbeats, a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.
All music created by DJ Rufbeats

Thursday Nov 11, 2021
You’re Never Stuck, Lost or Alone /// Elizabeth Miles /// EP142:Part2
Thursday Nov 11, 2021
Thursday Nov 11, 2021
We all have a journey. On our journey's we take many steps in every direction. Sometimes, those steps have us walking in a circle, and it seems as if there is no way out.
As we talk about Elizabeth's philosophy on taking small pivots, we learn about her story. We learn about what her first Pivot was that sent her life in a direction she never thought possible.
After 20 years in an abusive relationship, she took her first Pivot. That led to many more, giving her the confidence to make big jumps that changed her life.
It's not always easy, but listening to Elizabeth's story may give you just enough inspiration to take that Pivot you need in your life.
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Elizabeth A. Miles is an author, a certified life and business coach, a podcaster, and an entrepreneur. As the founder of March Forth Media Company, she is on a mission to help creatives find their unique style and voice and share their message with the world. Elizabeth is committed to assisting others in gaining the knowledge, skills, and confidence they need to build a brand and business (and life) they love.
Elizabeth is the author of This Is Where You Pivot: The Shift from Fear to Freedom, The Journey to Healing: Love, Yourself, and Connect You: A Guide to Your Authentic Life. She is also the host of The Power to Pivot Podcast (available on Anchor, Apple, Spotify, and Amazon), where she interviews others who have chosen Pivot in their lives. Her blog features other creatives trying to spread their story and offers tools, tips, and resources for marketing and brand development.
Elizabeth is a Philadelphia native who loves baking and cooking, music, and spending time in nature.
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Topics we discuss:
- What it was like before her choice to Pivot
- Her pivot moment and what changed
- The damaging relationship
- The journey to getting to her first Pivot
- Growing up and her early influences
- Being bullied
- Finding her place
- What life is like today
- Listening to Intuition
References:
- Big (The Movie)
- Funko Pops
- Power to Pivot
- Friends - Pivot segment
Credits:
Music:
Central Theme: "Eaze Does It" by Shye Eaze and DJ Rufbeats, a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.
All music created by DJ Rufbeats