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Welcome to More In Common Podcast With Rodney Campbell and Keith Richardson. This podcast is our social experiment to examine our belief that we all have more in common than that which divides us. With each new guests we have open, honest, and insightful conversation about the things that matter to them.
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Thursday May 28, 2020
Season 2 Recap /// "Discovery" /// E079
Thursday May 28, 2020
Thursday May 28, 2020
What was your favorite listen from Season 2, Discovery? What stood out most from that episode?
This season we had another amazing lineup with amazing people. Today, we wrap Season 2, which was all about Discovery. We are in 2020, a Decade Possible, and are so glad you were able to join us to hear the stories of the amazing guest this season.
We are taking a page out of season 1 by stringing together some highlights from each guest and some new content sprinkled in.
Season 2 has been a blast and Season 3 is only set to continue this momentum!!
"Trust is built with consistency." - Lincoln Chaffee
References:
- Kathryn Hahn
- Sutto Twins
- Donnie Mygan
- Brenda Nova
- Jewel Love
- Tara Bixby
- Rob Reynolds
- Graham Bodie
- Keith Ferguson
Credits:
Lead editor + Producer: Ruf Holmes
Music:
Main Theme: "Eaze Does It" by Shye Eaze and DJ Rufbeats, a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.

Thursday May 21, 2020
Keith Ferguson Jr. /// Ball Was Life /// Season2:E078
Thursday May 21, 2020
Thursday May 21, 2020
Keith Ferguson is an associate in the Financial Services Litigation group. He focuses his practice on representing financial institutions and mortgage servicers in real property actions.
Prior to joining Eckert Seamans, Keith was an associate at a private firm with a focus on the mortgage banking industry in the mid-Atlantic region. He was the supervising attorney of the firm’s mediation practice and led a department of legal professionals responsible for the firm’s active residential foreclosure cases in the settlement and status conference stage.
Keith previously served as a judicial law clerk to the Honorable Wanda Keyes Heard in the Circuit Court for Baltimore City and as a law clerk for the United States Agency for International Development in the Employee and Labor Relations Division in Washington, D.C.
"The sun is coming up tomorrow. Get after it." - Keith Ferguson Jr
Topics we discuss:
- Perspective on Children's potential
- Understanding your strengths
- Being a black attorney from poverty
- Transition from sports
- Gong to Cornell
- Having strong examples in his life
- His Dad primarily raising him
- His Grandma being his mother figure
- Growing up without Mom
- The impact of Premarital Counseling
- Openness to counseling in general
- The future of his family
- Taking a pause in Conversation
- Managing Hard Conversations
- Managing lines of relationship
- Getting into Cornell's Football Hall of Fame
References:
- Key and Peele skit about doing anything you want
- Football Profile
- Marion Barry
- NCAA 1AA definition
- Ron Prince - Coach now at Howard
- Mike Carrillo's episode
- Christian Picciolini
Credits:
Lead editor + Producer: Ruf Holmes
Music:
Main Theme: "Eaze Does It" by Shye Eaze and DJ Rufbeats, a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.
Guest theme: "Theme On" by DJ Rufbeats created as a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.

Thursday May 14, 2020
Graham Bodie /// Ears Open, Sound Off /// Season2:E077
Thursday May 14, 2020
Thursday May 14, 2020
How do you listen? Did you know there are at least 43 different ways people listen? The ways we listen affect how we ask questions, how we connect, how we solve problems, and impact everything we do daily.
Graham has dedicated his life understanding and teaching how we all listen.
Listen in and you will learn about the patterns of listening and, perhaps, identify some of your own.
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Today we are with Graham Bodie. Graham got his Ph.D at our Alma Mater, Purdue University…Boiler up! He study Interpersonal and Health Communications. He is now a professor at the University of Mississippi and has contributed to many research publications and recently provided edits to The Sourcebook of Listening Research: Methodology and Measures
He currently has a large-scale research study on how people listen to others who are experiencing some sort of personal problem. Listening is a primary focus of Graham's life work and he is a contributor to The Listen First project.
"Relationships come first and Relationships do matter" - Graham
Topics we discuss:
- Teaching people to Listen
- Asking questions
- Definition of Listening
- ABCs of Listening
- Different patterns of Listening
- Listening Profiles
- How he got into studying Listening
- His Mentor
- Listen First Coalition
- Political Correctness
- What it means
- Defensiveness
- Tribe
- How to be informed
- Growing up privileged
- What Privilege is
References:
- Listen First Project
- Fundamental Attribution Error
- Listening concepts Inventory
- Echo Listening Profile
- Pantsuit Politics
- Dolly's Episode
- Jim McNamara - Organizational Listening
- Cristian Picciolini
Credits:
Lead editor + Producer: Ruf Holmes
Music:
Main Theme: "Eaze Does It" by Shye Eaze and DJ Rufbeats, a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.
Guest theme: "A Light Breakfast" by DJ Rufbeats created as a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.

Thursday May 07, 2020
Rob Reynolds /// From Scratch /// Season2:E076
Thursday May 07, 2020
Thursday May 07, 2020
Rob is an acclaimed artist with works in museums around the world. He is a sculptor, Painter, mixed media and installation artist. He has had acclaimed works at Bert Green Fine Art, Pergamon Museum in Berlin, CEBIKO World Ceramic Biennale in South Korea, the Natural History Museum of Los Angeles and many more.
He was born in Newton, MA and currently has his studio and residence in Los Angeles, CA. He has a great perspective on many things and provides insights and perspectives that make for fun and insightful conversation.
They had this conversation back in August 2019 and are thrilled to finally be getting into your ears. In this conversation they talk about a lot of things.
"If you want to make the world a better place, Dig In." - Rob Reynolds
Topics we discuss:
- His Studio
- What Being an Artist is
- The Impact of the election on his work
- His start as an artist
- Parent's Influence
- Growing up west of Boston in 70s
- Classism
- Racism
- Homophobia
- The Liberal Fantasy
- Assumptions he had about our better nature
- Segregation
- Prejudice
- The impact he tries to have with his art
- His focus on Climate change
- Community
- Managing Optimism
- Guilt not doing enough
- What we all do to try
- We talk about a lot in a short about of time
Credits:
Lead editor + Producer: Ruf Holmes
Music:
Main Theme: "Eaze Does It" by Shye Eaze and DJ Rufbeats, a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.
Guest theme: "Course Dinner" by DJ Rufbeats created as a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.

Thursday Apr 30, 2020
Tara Bixby /// Bending Bars /// Season2:E075
Thursday Apr 30, 2020
Thursday Apr 30, 2020
Today, we are with Tara Bixby. Tara is a licensed Counselor who works in a Minimum security Male prison out in Idaho. However, that is just her day job as she is on a mission to empower women to live their best life. She normalize life struggles through stories, provides tools for personal growth, and to help shine light on mental health.
You can follow Tara on Instagram @courageously.u!!
"…I just try not to work with who they were then…I try to work with who they are now." - Tara Bixby
Topics we discuss:
- Working in male prisons
- Managing mental illness
- The system
- Empathy and Compassion
- Her journey to get into counseling
- Brilliant business decision for mental health
- Starting courageously.u
- Why she focuses on helping women
- What it was to start
- Being Vulnerable
- Vision for the future
- Male and female experiences with mental health
- Wholistic approach to medication
- How she takes care of herself
- The bootstrap argument
Credits:
Lead editor + Producer: Ruf Holmes
Music:
Main Theme: "Eaze Does It" by Shye Eaze and DJ Rufbeats, a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.
Guest theme: "Solemn Keys" by DJ Rufbeats created as a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.

Thursday Apr 23, 2020
Jewel Love /// Hand on Hand /// S2:E074
Thursday Apr 23, 2020
Thursday Apr 23, 2020
Jewel Love is a licensed psychotherapist and the CEO of Black Executive Men. His company helps black men in Corporate America find inner peace. They do so through psychotherapy, medication management, and corporate wellness programs.
He cares deeply about helping others navigate the emotional, cultural and identity challenges for others.
"At the bottom of vulnerability is safety for someone to feel safe and have a level of trust in the person that they are sharing with isn't going to use it against them in some hurtful way." - Jewel Love
Topics we discuss:
- Managing Mental Health
- Specifically Black Men
- Mental Health in Black Communities
- Managing Blackness
- Generational Trauma
- The Masculine agreements
- What our maleness is
- Redefining black maleness
- The Evolution
- Healthy Masculinity
- Toxic Masculinity
- The nexus of his practice's focus
- Growing up:
- In "Hip Hop" Culture
- The influence of Masculinity
- How he got into Psycho-therapy
- In a Mixed Family
- Spirituality and its influence
- What his practice offers
Credits:
Lead editor + Producer: Ruf Holmes
Music:
Main Theme: "Eaze Does It" by Shye Eaze and DJ Rufbeats, a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.
Guest theme: "A la Carte Lunch" by DJ Rufbeats created as a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.

Thursday Apr 16, 2020
Brenda Nova /// Modern Soul /// S2:E073
Thursday Apr 16, 2020
Thursday Apr 16, 2020
Brenda grew up a stout Jehovah's witness and through her experiences had to navigate depression through adolescence that led to attempts of suicide.
As a result, she has developed a passion for helping others find themselves. As a musician, she looks to channel that through her music. She writes her own music that aims to send a message about healing from issues with self-esteem, self-image and emotional trauma.
This is a soulful conversation that just makes us feel good. Hopefully it makes you feel good too.
"No one person's story is worse or better than another's…it's up to you to let it defeat you or catapults you to continue to do better." - Brenda Nova
Topics we discuss:
- What a fluoride stare is
- Her value in helping others find themselves
- Self-awareness
- Authenticity
- Failing her way to success
- The analysis of failure
- Her challenge of self-discovery
- Questioning institutions
- Her journey as a Jehovah's witness
- Growing Up
- Family Relationship dynamics
- Struggling with Depression
- Attempting Suicide
- Getting out
- The long term positive impact
- Learning from others
- Listening to elders
Credits:
Lead editor + Producer: Ruf Holmes
Music:
Main Theme: "Eaze Does It" by Shye Eaze and DJ Rufbeats, a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.
Guest theme: "Shadows' Silhouette" by DJ Rufbeats created as a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.

Thursday Apr 09, 2020
Donnie Mygan /// Introspective Avenue /// S2:E072
Thursday Apr 09, 2020
Thursday Apr 09, 2020
Donnie went to High School with Keith in New Hampshire. After 20 years, Donnie has experienced a lot of life. After losing his mom, he has a family member begin struggling hard with mental illness. This certainly teaches a lot to Donnie about how to help others manage through mental illness and mental well-being.
He is also a bit of a world traveler as he built a career as a renowned Chef working at top notch restaurants around the world.
He has a tremendous story and is very vulnerable in sharing that story with us today. Enjoy this conversation as much as we did.
"Be patient, and be careful of the words you use…and just let them know you are not alone." - Donnie Mygan
Topics we discuss:
- Being a Chef
- Culture of the Kitchen
- Restaurant Environment
- Sexual Harassment
- His Family Dynamics
- Female Strength Representation
- His Mother's Death
- What violence is
- Impact on relationships
- Mental health and Illness
- Depression
- Suicide
- Being family support
- Recognizing in others
- Impact
- Evolution of Perspective
- Hospitals
Credits:
Lead editor + Producer: Ruf Holmes
Music:
Main Theme: "Eaze Does It" by Shye Eaze and DJ Rufbeats, a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.
Guest theme: "Windshield Blues" by DJ Rufbeats created as a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.

Thursday Apr 02, 2020
Sutto Twins /// Double Down /// S2:E071
Thursday Apr 02, 2020
Thursday Apr 02, 2020
Today we are with the Sutto twins, Jen and Steph Sutto.
Jen and Steph grew up in a small town in California and one day, it hit them that they could do anything! So, they left their small town and started taking over their world. They made their name as the Glitter Twins who made a Glitter Gel marketed to the electric dance scene. They have an amazing story and connection we each other that we are thrilled to explore with them.
Now they are influencers on Tik Tok. Both having their own channels with their own focuses which we highly recommend you checking them out.
They are social media savants who also consult with entrepreneurs on social media strategies. You have to check out their new Tik Tok video series called Tik Talks about how to use the platform. Especially if you are trying to figure it out like we are.
In other words, they stay busy and keep knocking down doors to pursue their dreams.
How to Find them:
- Tik Tok:
- @jennifersutto
- @stephaniesutto
- You Tube
- Tik Talks
- Instagram
- @stephsutto
- @jennifersutto
"Disappointing people is actually a great feeling because now they don't have super high expectations for you and now YOU HAVE THE FREEDOM TO ACTUALLY DO WHAT YOU WANT" - Steph Sutto
Topics we discuss:
- Their epiphany they could do anything
- Hitting Rock Bottom
- Just quitting their Jobs
- Their Twin Connection
- Their separate journeys
- Steph Dropping out of college
- Jen graduating
- How they balance each other
- Their separate journeys
- Impact of other's thoughts
- Hitting Rock bottom
- Really comes out at the end
- How Glitter Twins started
- Parental Support
- Building a Video platform
- Personal experience
- The growth
- Communicating with each other
- Their evolution to Tik Tok
- What their videos are
- Steph Coming Out
Credits:
Lead editor + Producer: Ruf Holmes
Music:
Main Theme: "Eaze Does It" by Shye Eaze and DJ Rufbeats, a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.
Guest theme: "Miss You Gal" by DJ Rufbeats created as a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.

Thursday Mar 26, 2020
Kathryn Hahn /// H.A.H.N. Y.O.L.O. /// S2:E070
Thursday Mar 26, 2020
Thursday Mar 26, 2020
Today we are with the amazing Kathryn Hahn. Kathryn was born in Cleveland and started acting at an early age in the television show Hickory Hideout. She graduated from Northwestern and got her Masters in Fine Arts from Yale.
If you don't know her from her role on Crossing Jordan she has played recognizable and leading roles in Anchorman, Step Brothers, Parks and Recreation, How to Lose a Guy in 10 days, We're the Millers, Afternoon Delight, the Bad Moms movies and more recently she has starred in the Amazon Original, "I Love Dick" and the outstanding HBO show "Mrs. Fletcher".
She is coming out with a lot of new work. On April 27, 202 she has a new HBO Limited Series "I Know This Much Is True"…In Summer of 2020 she has another Series on Apple TV coming called "Central Park"… and in December 2020 she will be joining the Marvel Universe with a new Disney Series called "WandaVision".
Kathryn is also a dedicated mom to her daughter and son and is married to our 2020 Season 1 guest Ethan Sandler.
"It was easier for me to tell the truth when I was acting than it was in real life." - Kathryn Hahn
Topics we discuss:
- Being a recovering Catholic
- Being born into religion
- Her struggle embracing the religion
- Her attachment to it
- Passing Judgement
- What it means for her kids
- Her childhood
- Telling the truth being and actor
- Safety of the theatre
- Pursuing Acting
- Taking out dept at Yale
- Just knowing it
- Her awareness
- Following the path and journey
- Payphones and Newspapers
- Parenting expectations
- The pressure of how to give birth
- Accepting the process as it is
- Deciding to have kids during Career
Credits:
Lead editor + Producer: Ruf Holmes
Music:
Main Theme: "Eaze Does It" by Shye Eaze and DJ Rufbeats, a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.
Guest theme: "Miss You Gal" by DJ Rufbeats created as a More In Common Podcast Exclusive.